OOOOOOOH NOOOOOO!!!!!!

I feel your pain... i've had to abandon a build also, but because of really bad fit problems.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog hey swan, it looks pretty cool dressed in gloss black doesnt it? i started to just decal it with the primer on!! yes, next time (luckily i have 2 more resin cockpits and 2 more tamiya stangs over on the "to build" pile) im gonna take my time and be patient because the alclad finish is worth the wait. later.

i guess its sort of a stumbling block sometimes, but i just got to go all out or not go at all!! ya know what i mean? it gets me into trouble sometimes and costs me money too, but i want every board or piece of trim that i cut for the houses i build to fit perfectly everytime! that ofcourse is impossible most of the time due to time constraints. i channel that perfectionists mentality right into modelling as well. it just irks me to see any kind of surface blemish or defect in my workmanship on my models. i guess thats why i have such a nice array of models in my airbrush fodder pile!! just gotta remember that im a rookie and you cant buy experience. later.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog got that right josh. ive been concentrating on the finish rather than building skills and when i primed in gloss black it brought every hidden defect to the surface. just lets you know that the real pro's of this hobby have honed thier skills in all areas to be able to produce a near flawless build. ill get there one day. im in this hobby for the enjoyment, but i'd also like to enter some local contest and actually place. and deep down, my end goal is to actually win one!! its just like art, the only way i get enjoyment and fullfillment is when i draw something that looks exactly like my subject. when i did draw, i wanted people to say, wow, that looks like a photograph. you, my friend, have some of those drawings that i'm speaking of in your collection.

Awwwww shucks.....
Don't sell youself short Chris, your drawings were quite good as well my friend.

QUOTE: iv won art contest, might as well try to win a modelling contest. something inside of me wants to build the perfect house as well as the perfect model. later.

I'll bet you'll get there sooner than later Chris!

It's really hard work being a perfectionist. I know. It drives my girlfriend nuts all the time. I wouldn't have it any other way personally. Check out the quote in my sig.

yeah ive done that... spilled a full bottle of tenax on the wing of my he 219, now its missing a wingtip

cool!! cant wait to see them. later.

Hey saltydog, really sorry to hear about the loss of your Stang. But at least you learned the old "Patience is a Virtue" lesson, especially when it comes to letting paints and decals cure before next steps. I usually have 3 models in build at a time so I can work on another while waiting for curing. Better luck on your next one. I'll be posting some pics of my latest Stang as soon as I get my photo CD back from the lab ( Don't have a digital camera yet ).

hey swan, it looks pretty cool dressed in gloss black doesnt it? i started to just decal it with the primer on!! yes, next time (luckily i have 2 more resin cockpits and 2 more tamiya stangs over on the "to build" pile) im gonna take my time and be patient because the alclad finish is worth the wait. later.

That's a shame, so sad to hear of your loss. My Stang is sitting all in black at the moment and I will be certain to let it set for a few more days now.

got that right josh. ive been concentrating on the finish rather than building skills and when i primed in gloss black it brought every hidden defect to the surface. just lets you know that the real pro's of this hobby have honed thier skills in all areas to be able to produce a near flawless build. ill get there one day. im in this hobby for the enjoyment, but i'd also like to enter some local contest and actually place. and deep down, my end goal is to actually win one!! its just like art, the only way i get enjoyment and fullfillment is when i draw something that looks exactly like my subject. when i did draw, i wanted people to say, wow, that looks like a photograph. you, my friend, have some of those drawings that i'm speaking of in your collection. iv won art contest, might as well try to win a modelling contest. something inside of me wants to build the perfect house as well as the perfect model. later.

I've been there before too Chris. I spilled acetone all over my nearly completed F-18 and ruined it as I was decaling. I hate that sinking feeling you get in your gut when this kind of thing happens. On the plus side you've gained valueable experience. Now, when you rebuild this pony, you'll do an even better job than you did the first time around.

10-4. i started to try to find some before i tried the acryl solvent but again got bit by the impatient bug. i just get a little excited and wont to push on to the finish line and usually screw up. its like the old saying goes in construction (or anywhere else) "if you dont have time to do it right, when do you have time to do it over?" like trim work, you just got to learn patience along with this hobby if you wont professional results. thanks, later.

Chris,

Sorry to hear about the Mustang brother. That stinks.

Next time use something like Castrol Super Clean as it does not attack the plastic.

Mike

(enter saltydog with taps playing softly in the back ground) its over fellows. i lost her and the true details cockpit i worked so hard on. i began stripping the paint on the fuselage sides and something aweful began to transpire infront of my eyes. you really cant sand this stuff as it tends to just roll up and goo up the sanding stick or paper. just for the heck of it, i took a q-tip and some MM acryl solvent and dabbed the surface of the fuselage. to my surprise, it began coming off with relative ease. then, i went over it one more time to get all the left over areas and the phone rang. i had been rubbing the surface for about 10 minutes with no attacking of plasic or anything. when i came back from answering the phone, i took a damp cloth to wipe off the excess acry solvent and plastic smeared along with the chemical. i had 2 very large blisters when i got done and teary eyes. so, i quickly opened her up to extract my true detail cockpit and it said no as well. boy, does CA glue hold well. the resin parts just crumbled when any kind of pressure was applied. the next trip to the LHS will yield the chemical that will allow you to "unbond" the CA glue joint. man, i was so close to my second finished build. after ruining several kits, i really needed this one. well, to make myself feel better, i popped open my hasegawa F-16A in israeli desert cammo garb. i decided to build it to hang from the ceiling so it would go quickly without having to spend alot of time on the cockpit and wheel wells. im currently prepping it for the paint job. flat paint is easy to fix if i screw something up on it. ill post some pics hopefully by the end of the week. later.

QUOTE: would like to try Alclad II for the bottom of the F-15E, but money is real tight right now and that stuff if $7.50 a bottle isn't it?

yes, i paid somewhere around that amount for mine. its a good buy though when you do scrape together the money. very realistic. later.

I would like to try Alclad II for the bottom of the F-15E, but money is real tight right now and that stuff if $7.50 a bottle isn't it?
I am going to use the Model Master Metalizer for it this time.

Mike

thanks richard. if i would have gotten the said area right the model would have looked sweet because the rest of it looks really good. now i see why everybody raves about the alclad lacquers as being the way to go as far as NMFs go. i think ill slowly collect the rest of the colors they have available. i havent touched it since yesturday so im hoping to get it back on the bench over the next couple of days a finish it on up. thanks for you comments. later.

Even If you used the Alclad primer, it is a gloss and needs more time to cure than a couple of hours. Another possibility that comes to mind is water in the air line, but I assume you have a moisture trap on your compressor set-up. Anyway, glad to hear the model can be salvaged, cause you did a real nice job on the cockpit interior. Looking forward to seeing the finished Stang, it's one of my favorite AC.

yeah, i guess i got a little impatient! i used the alclad gloss black primer and its a lacquer. i says on the bottle it can be recoated in a couple of hours. what it means if you read a little further is that you can recoat with a coat of primer, not the aluminum. the good thing is, its only one wing and up the side of the fuselage of said wing. im building it using the markings of the bird that T. J. Christian flew so most of its OD on the top anyway with a yellow and black hood and nose. the bottom and some of the side is NMF but for the most part it is OD. ive already got it sanded down and its not looking too bad. its not going to the airbrush fodder pile thats for sure. its got my True Details cockpit in there and im definetly gonna be seen again!!! i got in a hurry because i finally got a day off to myself .....wife and kid gone.......peace........quiet.......thought id get alot accomplished.........and just over done it. oh well, i think it'll be alright still. later.

oh next time, i would suggets that if you use gloss black acryl, wait for it to dry 24 hours, then apply future, wait 48 hours, then alclad it. future will toughen the acryl, and make it easier to stick, and as a bonus, looks shiner

I agree with Rick.

You should have waited 48 hours to be sure your paint is set good.
I painted my F-15E with MM enamels and I am waiting 48 hours before applying Future to it for the decals as I don't want any troubles.

Mike

Sounds like you didn't wait long enough for the primer to dry before spraying the Alclad. Alclad is a lacquer and if you used an acrylic primer, I would have waited 24-48 hours for the primer to fully cure before spraying the Alclad. If you sand it down, polish, and re-prime, you should be able to salvage the model. Wishing you the best of luck as I feel your pain.

try using sandpaper rough to sand most, then use fine sandpaper, then the remander can stay. or use brake fluid