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Wondering if I must acquire a panel liner like the tamiya ones and enamel thinner, or professional artist's oil paints with white spirits

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    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 9:21 PM

Much luck to you Gerard. I think that you will find oils to be quite fun. Especially when you start mixing. Get the primary colors as well, Red, yellow, and blue, along with some black and white.   Between those colors and what you already have, the possibilities for mixing anything you need is right there. 

 

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Posted by Gerard C. on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 5:13 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

I use Testors Black Detail Wash. All the same as Tamiya Panel Wash.....

Several folks use different methods for washes - oils, washes, etc...

 

I see from all your comments. I ended up deciding for the oils and white spirit to try and mix some colours of my own. Wish me luck!

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    October 2018
Posted by Gerard C. on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 5:12 PM

GMorrison

Test your technique. Unless really really diluted, say a dot in an ounce (30ml) of spirits, it just takes FOREVER to dry.

 

Copy that. Another tip I wrote down on my modelling notebook. It's really starting to get grossly filled up!

By the way, thank you for sparing me the time to convert the ounces to ml.

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Posted by Gerard C. on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 5:04 PM

stikpusher

Oils are a much more forgiving medium to work with. Their slow drying time, allows plenty of chance to add to or remove from the wash, tint, filter, etc. Pre mixed panel line washes are pretty much a “one trick pony”. 

 

That's a relief. I wasn't sure if both techniques were thought to be used for the same thing. Today I was on a big mall and I ended up getting some Oil Titan Goya colours to try some mixes of my own, and a bottle of odorless white spirit. I chose burnt sienna, raw and burnt umber, and also ochre for mixing.

With all these, I hope I can be on my merryway for the time being with my planes and armour!

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 5:02 PM

Test your technique. Unless really really diluted, say a dot in an ounce (30ml) of spirits, it just takes FOREVER to dry.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    October 2018
Posted by Gerard C. on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 4:59 PM

Nathan T

They are the same thing. Only having oil tube paints opens up more possibilities for other weathering. 

 

Totally. I ended up getting some Oil Titan Goya colours to try some mixes of my own, and a bottle of odorless white spirit. I chose burnt sienna, raw and burn umber, and also ochre for mixing.

- Gerard Casado Aijón -

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:48 AM

Oils are a much more forgiving medium to work with. Their slow drying time, allows plenty of chance to add to or remove from the wash, tint, filter, etc. Pre mixed panel line washes are pretty much a “one trick pony”. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    January 2013
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:53 AM

I use Testors Black Detail Wash. All the same as Tamiya Panel Wash.....

Several folks use different methods for washes - oils, washes, etc...

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    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, January 1, 2019 8:59 PM

They are the same thing. Only having oil tube paints opens up more possibilities for other weathering. 

 

 

  • Member since
    October 2018
Wondering if I must acquire a panel liner like the tamiya ones and enamel thinner, or professional artist's oil paints with white spirits
Posted by Gerard C. on Tuesday, January 1, 2019 7:53 PM

Hello everyone,

Like I stated on the topic of the discussion, I don't really know if I should get some official panel liner (in the present case, for the cockpit and exteriors of a plane) or if I can get the same result with professional oil paints with the usual 10-90% mix ratio with white spirit. Then there's the other option, that I guess would be using panel liner followed by a wash with the oil paints. In any case, it's not clear to me if the panel liner must be treated with the same care as a wash.

Most than anything else, my doubts are about if the two techniques, or products, are used to perform the same result, or if they chase different objectives that can complement one another.

For example: If I wanted to highlight the panel lines of the cockpit with panel liner -> first I paint it, then seal it with glossy acrylic, then panel line it? Would be the same using oil wash, or you don't recommend it?

Thank you in advance for your time!

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Gerard Casado.

Tags: panel liner , wash

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