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  • Member since
    August, 2004
  • From: Forest Hill, Maryland
Mig acrylic paint issues
Posted by cwalker3 on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 12:38 PM

Every time I try to apply this paint, whether with a brush or an airbrush, it acts like there is some kind of film on the plastic. All the paint does is puddle up after I apply it. I've used it on Bandai and the newer Airfix kits. On the Bandai kit, I painted without first washing the sprues. So with the Airfix kits, I washed them with dishwashing detergent (Dawn) and rinsed. Same problem. I now find that I'm having the same problem when applying the Mig over another type of paint.

I really like Migs color selection and would like to get this sorted out. Anyone else having this problem or have any suggestions?

  • Member since
    March, 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:15 PM
I did too,really steep learning curve.I never got it right.One suggestion:just Google"Mig Paint Problems"it returned a myriad of folks with problems,there were a lot of solutions including answers from Mig himself.

  • Member since
    August, 2004
  • From: Forest Hill, Maryland
Posted by cwalker3 on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 1:48 PM

Well at least I know it's not just me.

After posting the question, I did a little experimenting. I took three different pices of plastic from one of the Airfix kits. On one panel, I wiped it down with alcohol before painting. One the other two, no alcohol, just to see if oil from my fingers might be the issue. Two panels were identical pieces and were smooth. The third piece had sort of a rough texture. Paints used were matt and satin black and red.

The top pic is the piece with the rough texture and the paint took to it pretty well.

The second pic is the piece with the smooth surface and you can see the problem I've been having.

Maybe this paint just requires a primer?

Anyway, let me check Google and see what I can find. Thanks.

 

  • Member since
    March, 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 2:18 PM
Primer for sure,but thats just the beginning.

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    July, 2013
Posted by modelmaker66 on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 2:43 PM

Tojo72
Primer for sure,but thats just the beginning.
 

You also ned to mix the paint well, not just shake, but get the gunk mixed from the bottom. This may be the problem.

  • Member since
    August, 2004
  • From: Forest Hill, Maryland
Posted by cwalker3 on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:10 PM

I use “L” shaped pieces of sprue to get to the bottom and stir it up. Hasn’t made any difference.

I‘ve spent the last two hours reading about the problem and Mig’s solutions. Use his primer and apply it in multiple, very light coats. Then thin the finish paint with a drop or two of a cellulose thinner like Mr Color Mr Thinner. This along with the primer will help break surface tension and aid in adhesion.

I think I’ll just go back to Tamiya and Polly Scale. 

  • Member since
    March, 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:48 PM

cwalker3

I use “L” shaped pieces of sprue to get to the bottom and stir it up. Hasn’t made any difference.

I‘ve spent the last two hours reading about the problem and Mig’s solutions. Use his primer and apply it in multiple, very light coats. Then thin the finish paint with a drop or two of a cellulose thinner like Mr Color Mr Thinner. This along with the primer will help break surface tension and aid in adhesion.

I think I’ll just go back to Tamiya and Polly Scale. 

 

Exactly Ditto

I thought Vallejo was tough,at least I got that down,but that Mig stuff is tough.I have also heard good things about Mission Models Paints.

  • Member since
    November, 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 9:10 AM

 

Cw3

Haven't tried that product and not a fan of acrylics. Sounds like a primer is needed first so the paint has some tooth into the surface. The Tamiya paints don’t have that issue and spray well on bare plastic without the need of any primer and behave somewhat like enamels. I strictly use MM enamels but a lot of the military FS line has been dropped so I’m experimenting with different acrylics as replacements once my stock runs out.

tojo

I recently experimented with MMP and was pleasantly surprised at how well they sprayed following their directions. Let’s just say this enamel user ordered more bottles of Mission Model Paints. Wink

 

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  • Member since
    February, 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 2:04 PM

I honestly don't know why anyone would use these Mig paints. The videos I have seen including by Mig himself, well they look like far too much trouble.  

I have used Tamiya for years without any problem and now I also use the AK real colors, which perform exactly like Tamiya paints.  I thin the AK with Tamiya X20 and it is flawless with opaque coverage in one coat.

Mig is in business to sell all these products that can be replaced by products that work are far cheaper overall, without the headaches. 

One set of artists oil paints that will last 20 years will replace about 300 dollars in Mig weathering products.  Not to speak of a big can of Aqua Net hairspray for $5 bucks.

 

Now he has these paints which look extremely hard to use to get a good result.

If you are used to Tamiya Acrylic and need more color variety try the AK Real Colors, and get off the Mig merry-go-round.

  • Member since
    November, 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 4:32 PM

Wilbur Wright

Mig is in business to sell all these products that can be replaced by products that work are far cheaper overall, without the headaches. 

One set of artists oil paints that will last 20 years will replace about 300 dollars in Mig weathering products.  Not to speak of a big can of Aqua Net hairspray for $5 bucks.

BINGO !!!!! I have been saying this very same thing.

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