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Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:15 AM

Tankluver

 

 
oldermodelguy

What came of this anyway Tankluver, have you rectified anything yet ?

 

 

 

did some research and bought myself a Paasche D500sr and a talon airbrush. It came yesterday and i used the ammo mig modulation set to paint the Otto carius Tiger I. It came out nicely but i was still figuring out the best setting for how to paint. I’m starting to get the hang of it now. 

 

That's great ! You'll catch on soon enough. Think thin on your paints and go from there. Do some tests. . And clean your airbrush well, on acrylics I like to follow up my cleaning with shooting some straight alcohol through it.

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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:20 AM

oldermodelguy

 

 
Tankluver

 

 
oldermodelguy

What came of this anyway Tankluver, have you rectified anything yet ?

 

 

 

did some research and bought myself a Paasche D500sr and a talon airbrush. It came yesterday and i used the ammo mig modulation set to paint the Otto carius Tiger I. It came out nicely but i was still figuring out the best setting for how to paint. I’m starting to get the hang of it now. 

 

 

 

That's great ! You'll catch on soon enough. Think thin on your paints and go from there. Do some tests. . And clean your airbrush well, on acrylics I like to follow up my cleaning with shooting some straight alcohol through it.

 

yes I spent about an hour last night just trying to take apart and clean my airbrush after i painted. Also turns out i was using Vallejo paint thinner all along but had used the retarder intermitently. I honestly think it was the compressor being to weak for a suction brush.

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:56 AM

Tankluver

 

yes I spent about an hour last night just trying to take apart and clean my airbrush after i painted. Also turns out i was using Vallejo paint thinner all along but had used the retarder intermitently. I honestly think it was the compressor being to weak for a suction brush.

 

 Lately I've been spraying MM enamels and just flush good with lacquer thinner. Acrylics are tougher though if they harden inside there now you got trouble. I find most of the gunk right at the tip, and maybe a little on the needle.

How do you like the Talon, I assume it's a TG ?

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Posted by DasBeav on Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:51 AM

When I use my VJ paints I just use distilled water. It works for me and is alot cheaper than VJ thinner.

When you clean VJ, do not use alcohol. Bad, very bad results. I spray windex, then laquer thinner, windex again, repeat 'til it's clean, then finish off with distilled water. And as has become habit, I break down the thing completely and clean it...usually.

 Sooner Born...Buckeye Bred.

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, January 27, 2019 12:33 PM

Yeah I’m Stiller’s xperimenting with everything. Today i used Vallejo thinner with its black primer on another model and it started bubbling out of the top of where you put the paint. Could this be because of a bad mix ratio or is it another problem. I didn’t have to mix anything in with the ammo mig paint sets i used last night. It sprayed just fine 

 

 

edit: how much of a bend if any should a needle have, this Is my first time using an airbrush like this I’m hoping i didn’t accidentally bend the needle last night when reassembling it

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:41 PM

Tankluver

Yeah I’m Stiller’s xperimenting with everything. Today i used Vallejo thinner with its black primer on another model and it started bubbling out of the top of where you put the paint. Could this be because of a bad mix ratio or is it another problem. I didn’t have to mix anything in with the ammo mig paint sets i used last night. It sprayed just fine 

 

 

edit: how much of a bend if any should a needle have, this Is my first time using an airbrush like this I’m hoping i didn’t accidentally bend the needle last night when reassembling it

 

I think you know the answer to the needle but anyway, there should be no bend. However, I had a bent needle for my 200 and straightened it quite well in a few minutes. A little bending back and test rolling on a flat surface, a bit more bending till it rolled true and it has worked fine. Depends where the bend is, mine was mid shaft, a tip bend might be another story. You can order spares though for the next time if need be. Actually amazon has them I believe..

Bubbles coming up into the cup is the nozzle is closed off not allowing paint to flow through. actually spraying acrylics it's common to get tip dry as your paint job progresses along, just stiop and take some thinner and clean off the tip, you can probably see the goober on the tip. This is why I like retarder in my mix, it help greatly towards reducing tip dry, so can flow aid. Or else a paint passage to the nozzle. My bet is on tip dry if you were painting fine then it started screwing up.

As I said about thinning, think milk and go from there, lol.

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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:01 PM

I’ll try some retarder then. It was backing up and bubbling out, i honestly think the mix ratio was off a bit. Also what do the different sized needles do? Is one better for acrylics and the other enamels?

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:21 PM

Tankluver

I’ll try some retarder then. It was backing up and bubbling out, i honestly think the mix ratio was off a bit. Also what do the different sized needles do? Is one better for acrylics and the other enamels?

 

Clean your tip before you do anything.

You must have bought the set then with different needles and nozzles/spray heads ? How many needles and air caps do you have in the set ? These are used in matched sets.

 

The set to use depends on what you are trying to do and how you thin the paint.

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:47 PM

I just have a basic set up with whatever they sent me in the talon box 

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:03 PM

Tankluver

I just have a basic set up with whatever they sent me in the talon box 

 

 You asked about different needle sizes, do you have 1 needle or more than one needle that came with your airbrush ?

Here watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwIOtU5oiLA

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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:15 PM

oldermodelguy

 

 
Tankluver

I just have a basic set up with whatever they sent me in the talon box 

 

 

 

 You asked about different needle sizes, do you have 1 needle or more than one needle that came with your airbrush ?

Here watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwIOtU5oiLA

 

yes i have three different needle sizes 

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:25 PM

Tankluver

 

 

Here watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwIOtU5oiLA

 

 

 

yes i have three different needle sizes 

 

 The guy in the video is testing and describing the use of the three needles and tips that go with them. Here is the link again, I got it to go live so just click it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwIOtU5oiLA

 

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Posted by Tankluver on Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:33 PM
I watched it, thank you for the link i switched out to the needle and points marked with three lines. I believe it’s 25mm and it hasn’t to be the best detail painting I’ve done. It gave me the right amount of coverage for what i was trying to highlight with a shadow coat.
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Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, January 27, 2019 7:04 PM

Tankluver
I watched it, thank you for the link i switched out to the needle and points marked with three lines. I believe it’s 25mm and it hasn’t to be the best detail painting I’ve done. It gave me the right amount of coverage for what i was trying to highlight with a shadow coat.
 

The  largest would be .66mm. The .25 is the smallest needle set. And the .38 is the middle or standard set. Generally fine detail would be done with the .25 but there is fudge room between them all depending how you use it. Don't be afraid to watch it again. Over time you will become more familiar with it all. But I'm really glad for you and that this is helping you to gain the results you are looking for..

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Posted by Tankluver on Monday, January 28, 2019 7:28 AM

I really appreciate all the help. Has to be the way airbrushing I’ve done so far.

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