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Greetings: I am a also relatively new at modeling having taken up the hobby again after retirement. I have been building for about 2 years. Still have a long way to go and this incudes skills using and airbrush.
Presently, I am a staisfied owner and user of two airbrushes. I will tell you without a doubt that there are significant differences in design and engineering of brushes. The old "axiom" is so true with airbrushes. You get what you pay for and I have probably wasted at least $350 trying to use inexpensive brushes.Compared to spending $100 more, the cheapies will produce more trouble and frustration than the savings is worth. With that being said, maybe one should start out cheap and appreciate what I'm saying aftrer you break down and buy a better brush ($$$).
I prently paint exclusively using Harder & Steenbeck Infinity & the IWATA Eclpse HP. Eclipse is very user friendly; H&S not so much. H&S for fine line brushing with IWATA being a worhorse. Probably could get awawith using IWATA Eclipse as air brushing skills improve. Time will tell??
Good Luck!!!!
JNP
goldhammer HL is Hobby Lobby, a craft store chain in the states. They put out a 40% off coupon every week, good on any one item except for clearance stuff.
HL is Hobby Lobby, a craft store chain in the states. They put out a 40% off coupon every week, good on any one item except for clearance stuff.
The Iwata Airbrush are also specifically excluded from using the 40% coupon. But you can use the coupon for Iwata spare parts, nozzle, needle, hose etc.
plasticjunkieHey Greg my son in law said the same thing but you got to check this out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNauilZRzHk Sorry K4 not trying to not hijack the thread but I couldnt pass this one up!
PJ, I just saw your post.
I never know that was where where the joke "Address the ball....." ......."Hello, ball". came from. A dear departed friend used to play that gag all the time on the golf course, and it cracked me up every single time. I laughed so hard when Art Carney said it in the video, even though I was sure it was coming. :)
And now back to our regularly scheduled program. How you getting along with that Neo?
K4BeeTee Plus if things go well and I survive the learning curve, I'm sure I can ask Santa for that Eclipse... BT
Plus if things go well and I survive the learning curve, I'm sure I can ask Santa for that Eclipse...
BT
i have a neo and a nicer iwata and I bought the nicer one first. One thing you can say about getting a nice one is that any problems are related to your technique. Nevertheless, I would say someone who is a master with the neo is better than someone who is a master of a high end airbrush. Learning to overcome challenges is part of the process and even with a nicer airbrush you are bound to face challenges.
part of what works for me and for beginners I think is the neo has a .35mm nozzle while my other one is .2mm. Fewer clogs with big nozzle and for me, I use it for clear coats and big base coats. the neo may not be as smooth on the trigger or clean as easily or be able to paint as fine lines as better one once mastered but those aren’t deal breakers when you are a beginner. Your prep of surface and paint are probably more or most important.
Not to mention, with 40% off HL coupon I got it for $18 or something. I don’t think the coupon should have applied in that case as it was already marked down.
Greg plasticjunkie ......but never got around to golfing. ......And you will never have a clue how much frustration, wasted time and wasted money you saved yourself. Smart man. Smart, smart man.
plasticjunkie ......but never got around to golfing.
......And you will never have a clue how much frustration, wasted time and wasted money you saved yourself. Smart man. Smart, smart man.
Hey Greg my son in law said the same thing but you got to check this out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNauilZRzHk
Sorry K4 not trying to not hijack the thread but I couldnt pass this one up!
You will love using the Neo.
Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!
Good choice. You would eventually have bought one, so as long as you can afford it, it will save you in the long run.
Modeling is an excuse to buy books.
I think you're giving yourself a fair start there. Congrats !
Good for you.
Do let us know how you get on with it.
plasticjunkie......but never got around to golfing.
Congratulations! Enjoy it.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the info. After a lot of hoohing and hahing I've decided to go with the Neo.
It makes more sense to me logically and financially considering my skill and experience in airbrushing (which is zero!).
Maybe some are able to improve with good tools and others, well....
i dont play golf, but they difference for me is like the difference between an i3 vs i5 processor.
Any how... moving on.
Tojo72 plasticjunkie damouav I wouldnt call the Iawata Neo a mid range AB, in any way, shape or form. It maybe good, but not mid range. Mate, Iwata have a very good following in Australia with good access to parts. You cant go wrong with which ever you decide to go with. Damian, when compared to the junk being sold on Ebay and Harbor Freight I consider it mid quality. It's geared for the beginner offering a taste of good performance while keeping the cost down. I'm no beginner but I love using my Neo cause it does what I expect and have no complaints. You are correct about Iwatas being excellent products hands down and if the OP can fork out a bit more $ then go for it. Just remember whether using an economic Neo or a high end $ air brush, it comes down to the operator's skill. Kind of like me trying to play golf with high end Taylor Made or Calloways.I can slice or shank with them as easily as with the cheapo stuff.
plasticjunkie damouav I wouldnt call the Iawata Neo a mid range AB, in any way, shape or form. It maybe good, but not mid range. Mate, Iwata have a very good following in Australia with good access to parts. You cant go wrong with which ever you decide to go with. Damian, when compared to the junk being sold on Ebay and Harbor Freight I consider it mid quality. It's geared for the beginner offering a taste of good performance while keeping the cost down. I'm no beginner but I love using my Neo cause it does what I expect and have no complaints. You are correct about Iwatas being excellent products hands down and if the OP can fork out a bit more $ then go for it. Just remember whether using an economic Neo or a high end $ air brush, it comes down to the operator's skill.
damouav I wouldnt call the Iawata Neo a mid range AB, in any way, shape or form. It maybe good, but not mid range. Mate, Iwata have a very good following in Australia with good access to parts. You cant go wrong with which ever you decide to go with.
I wouldnt call the Iawata Neo a mid range AB, in any way, shape or form.
It maybe good, but not mid range.
Mate, Iwata have a very good following in Australia with good access to parts.
You cant go wrong with which ever you decide to go with.
Damian, when compared to the junk being sold on Ebay and Harbor Freight I consider it mid quality. It's geared for the beginner offering a taste of good performance while keeping the cost down. I'm no beginner but I love using my Neo cause it does what I expect and have no complaints.
You are correct about Iwatas being excellent products hands down and if the OP can fork out a bit more $ then go for it. Just remember whether using an economic Neo or a high end $ air brush, it comes down to the operator's skill.
Kind of like me trying to play golf with high end Taylor Made or Calloways.I can slice or shank with them as easily as with the cheapo stuff.
LOL Tojo. Since you mentioned Calloways, I just gave my son in law a complete golf club set with even the bag that my neighbor threw away back in 04. I had an interest in learning how to golf so I grabbed it out of the trash bin but never got around to golfing.
My son in law's jaw dropped when he saw they are Calloways.
For those here in the states...just noticed that HL's 40% coupon no longer honored on Iwata Eclipse or Neo's.
No argument from me, having used a cheap chinese AB for several early projects then moving to the Eclipse was a game changer.
I belive that the tools we use play a significant part in the results we achieve along with skill, in that, dont bother including cheap AB.
Not every body can stump up the coin for a high end AB, but an extra month of savings to get a good entry level AB instead of a dirt cheap one is possible.
Everyone calls this thing an Iwata Neo except the box which calls it "Neo For Iwata". To my simple mind this would indicate to me that it is not an Iwata at all but made for them. Just sayin, it may not be a bad airbrush at all but don't think you're getting an Iwata for half price..
Ah righto thanks for that.
They don't seem to accept international orders though... bah humbug.
Tosh So far I replaced the needle and the nozzle due to just learning how to handle a AB.
So far I replaced the needle and the nozzle due to just learning how to handle a AB.
Uh oh...unless you're a gazillionaire, BMWs don't make the best learner driver vehicles....something to consider, thanks.
Tosh Ultimately, just have fun hand brushing, utilizing a rattle can, or a AB. Building a kit should be relaxing. Your Friend, Toshi
Ultimately, just have fun hand brushing, utilizing a rattle can, or a AB. Building a kit should be relaxing.
Your Friend, Toshi
Yup I agree 100% and this is exactly the main reason I am coming back into modelling. Can't wait to get started! :)
plasticjunkie The Neo is an excellent mid entry level air brush. I have one and use it a lot. Love how easy it cleans up and how well it atomizes my paints. Now if I want to get tighter mottling patterns then I use my Badger Renegade. I have several Badgers and all are excellent. You cannot go wrong with a Neo specially using a 40% coupon from HL. It's very affordable, well made and will deliver great results. Of course experience at air brushing, paint thinning ratios etc. play a major role in getting good results regardless of which AB one uses.
The Neo is an excellent mid entry level air brush. I have one and use it a lot. Love how easy it cleans up and how well it atomizes my paints. Now if I want to get tighter mottling patterns then I use my Badger Renegade. I have several Badgers and all are excellent.
You cannot go wrong with a Neo specially using a 40% coupon from HL. It's very affordable, well made and will deliver great results. Of course experience at air brushing, paint thinning ratios etc. play a major role in getting good results regardless of which AB one uses.
Thanks for the info man. One question, what is this 40% coupon at HL you mention? HL? Still learning all the acronyms lol
With that said I own both and at times I’ll utilize both the NEO and the HP-CS on the same build. The NEO is like a Mack Truck as the HP-CS is a BMW. I purchased my NEO as an absolute apprentice four years ago and learned diligently with it. So far I replaced the needle and the nozzle due to just learning how to handle a AB.
The replacement parts on a NEO are very very inexpensive compared to other Iwata‘s AB. This is due to the fact that Iwata does not produce/make the NEO. It is contracted out to a company in Taiwan if my memory serves me right, hence the cost efficiency. Iwata‘s high end AB can start at $500.00 American Dollars and up.
I also picked up a NEO TRN1 Trigger AB of which handles amazingly as it’s very ergonomic. My three year old grandson likes it as it fits his hand perfectly. If I had the money my next AB would be a Thayer-Chandler but that’s a whole nother discussion. Ultimately, just have fun hand brushing, utilizing a rattle can, or a AB. Building a kit should be relaxing.
Reside in Streetsboro, Ohio
It's all good mate.
You cant really go wrong with any Iwata, but the Eclipse wins hands down over the Neo.
damouav I live in Aus too, and I would strongly recommend the Eclipse over the basic Neo. I have had my Eclipse for several years and it has been sensational. Check out Airbrush Mega Store. https://www.airbrushmegastore.com
I live in Aus too, and I would strongly recommend the Eclipse over the basic Neo. I have had my Eclipse for several years and it has been sensational.
Check out Airbrush Mega Store.
https://www.airbrushmegastore.com
Awesome thanks for the info mate!
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