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Thinners and enamel washes
Posted by amateurmodeler50 on Thursday, July 4, 2019 6:14 PM

Hello, I've recently started using enamel washes from AK for weathering, and I paint my models with tamiya acrylics. So once I apply the washes, what's a safe way to remove them without damaging the paint underneath? I've tried laquer thinners and acetone and both remove the acrylic. I've seen people use enamel thinners from AK or tamiya though. So if i use these thinners, will the acrylic paint be removed as well? Or do I need to use a laquer clear coat before the washes, and then an enamel thinner to remove excess wash?

Thanks, Cyrus

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, July 6, 2019 10:08 AM

Washes seem to be replacing dry brushing as the modern way to create weathering stains.  However, by the number of posts about cleaning up excess washes show, they are not that easy.

People might try dry brushing.  You can slowly build up the stain, so you stop when you reach the desired opacity of the stain, and no cleanup is necessary.  However, as with learning any weathering technique, one should practice and master the technique on scrap rather than a good model.

 

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 12:41 PM

amateurmodeler50

Hello, I've recently started using enamel washes from AK for weathering, and I paint my models with tamiya acrylics. So once I apply the washes, what's a safe way to remove them without damaging the paint underneath? I've tried laquer thinners and acetone and both remove the acrylic. I've seen people use enamel thinners from AK or tamiya though. So if i use these thinners, will the acrylic paint be removed as well? Or do I need to use a laquer clear coat before the washes, and then an enamel thinner to remove excess wash?

Thanks, Cyrus

 

I recently painted the tail of my Mig 15 with Tamyia red lacquer with a  lacquer clear coat. I then used Tamyia enamel panel line accent paint. I removed the excess panel line paint with enamel thinner with no damage to the red lacquer paint.

Now a different story. I painted the engine pods on a B-58 with Testors' lacqure Melalizer  paint. I then added an enamel wash. I didn't like the results of the wash so I tried to remove it with an enamel thinner. The enamel thinner removed the enamel wash and the lacquer Metalizer paint. I have no idea why that happened. 

I wish that I could help you with your question, but I am as confused as you are.

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  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 12:56 PM

Testors Metalizer paints are very delicate. You would have to seal them with a dissimilar acrylic layer before using an enamel wash and cleaning up with thinner.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 1:01 PM

The best way to be sure that spirit based washes won't eat the color coat is to finish the color with clear acrylic. There are a number you can try, including the old go-to Future floor finish.

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 1:19 PM

GMorrison

The best way to be sure that spirit based washes won't eat the color coat is to finish the color with clear acrylic. There are a number you can try, including the old go-to Future floor finish.

 

Could be,I think there are many factors, I had a wash made with Testors Universal,the red can,and it went thru Vallejo varnish,really strange somtimes.

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