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Mixing paint for Iwata HP-C

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Mixing paint for Iwata HP-C
Posted by Calbear96 on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 5:24 PM
Hello everyone...new to the forum but researched all the notes enough to figure out that the Iwata HP-C was the airbrush to get for good all-around painting, and pretty good for 1/48 scale Luftwaffe planes. I also splurged and got the Iwata Powerjet compressor with air tank...my question is...

With the paint reservoir mounted on the top of the airbrush (I'm upgrading from a bottom-feed Badger Cresendo), what is the best way to mix paint and thinner? Should I mix it in another container and pour it into the reservoir???

Thanks in advance.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 5:48 PM
mix in advance... always.

how much did the powerjet cost ya?
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Posted by Calbear96 on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:02 PM
Powerjet was $399 at Dixieart, and I love it....such a great upgrade from the Paasche D500- the old one that didn't have the on/off switch, regulator, or moisture trap. Took awhile saving up for it, but well worth it.

As far as paint mixing, do you mix the paint in a jar and then pour it into the reservoir with a funnel? Or mix it directly in the reservoir?

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Posted by cbreeze on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:21 PM
Greetings,

I recently bought a Iwata HP-C and a CS. Both are new to me in the sense that they are double action gravity feeds. I was use to a single action Binks Wren gun. At first I thought the cup on top would be a problem but I don't even think about it anymore. As far as mixing goes, with the exception of color mixing, I just eyeball my paint and mix in thinner until it seems about right. I sure love my Iwata's.

Chuck B.
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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 6:49 PM
i mix my paints in the little plastic containers shown below. you can barely see the pippet lying on top of the plasic containers which i purchased at the LHS. the plastic containers can be purchased at walmart in the crafts sections for under 2 bucks. i take my sprue cutters and cut them off the tree as i need them. if you dont live near a hobby shop, raid your medicine cabinet and see if you have any eye droppers or infant medicine usually comes with a dropper. thats what i used for the longest time until i ran across the pippets at the LHS. they are very cheap as well. but always mix your paints and thinners in a separate container and transfering them to your airbrush is done easiest by an eye dropper or pippet. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 8:19 PM
What would work great, and I am going to buy some soon, is to buy the small 1 oz. mixing cups that Flex Coat sells for mixing epoxies for fishing rod builders.
These cups are flexible too so after you mix the paint you can squeeze the top of the cup before pouring the paint out which gives it a nice pouring spout to pour it into the airbrush color cup.
The Flex Coat mixing cups sell for around $3 or so for 100 of them which is real cheap. They look like this:


Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 8:40 PM
how would you seal one of those cups if you had left over paint?
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:06 PM
Chris,

I never keep any enamel paint that I have thinned and only mix enough to cover the job I am doing. If there is a small amount left over then I just throw it out.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 9:11 PM
thats it man, im calling the EPA right now!!!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] man i save every drop i can brother. call me a cheap scape if you want. i use acrylics anyway. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 10:54 PM
Personally I use an empty 35mm film canister.
The opaque type, not the black ones.

And having a lid to put on top really helps things when my 6 month old son starts crying for a feed.Approve [^]
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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, April 7, 2004 11:01 PM
hey, i have some of those myself tweety1. i store future in mine and various household chemicals.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 1:12 AM
My local drugstore actually carries the little mixing cups in the large quantities for around $3. People without a decent LHS might check there. I often times mix paint in them, but don't plan on having any extra to have to save. If I end up having any extra, I take a piece of platic wrap and adhere it to the top with a rubber band.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 3:38 AM
Quite often when my little nephews come around to visit I buy them those little "Kinder Surprise" chocolate eggs with the toy inside. They get to keep the toy and eat the chocolate but I hang onto the plastic egg that held the toy and use the two halves for mixing in thinner before spraying. Can't store paint in them though. they also have a smooth rounded inside surface which is easy to clean and reuse. We also call em "Yowies" here in Oz.

Cheers....Snowy
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Posted by Calbear96 on Thursday, April 8, 2004 12:34 PM
Saltydog, 1337, Mike V, Cbreeze, SFProps, Snowy, Tweety1, thanks to all you fellas for your responses...sounds like I have lots of ways to go, but definitely mix paint outside the resevoir, then pour it in.

Mike V, which retail stores sell those mixing cups?

If there's not one close by, I just might go the film canister route, since those seem "bendable" to pour into the small paint reservoir on the HP-C
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 8, 2004 5:59 PM
thank you, tsangww1.

for the stores that sell those mixing cups, try medicine supply houses... (no du-hast jokes here) if you eat lots of tylonol or your son does, take those li'l cups. Also, a great choice is contact lens containers. i personally wear glasses, but that doesnt stop me from getting those contact stuff... Another source is old tamiya/testors/modelmaster acrylic/enamal/lacquor paint bottles. i use my tamiya ones lots for mixing... before i sold them along with my aztek a220 to a friend

yo saltydog, where do you get the full-sized tamiya paints? my LHS only has the "tamiya paint mini's"
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, April 8, 2004 7:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tsangww1


Mike V, which retail stores sell those mixing cups?


I don't think any well-known store sells them, at least that brand.
You would either have to buy them online or find a tackle store that carries rod building supplies.
I have also seen them on Ebay many times before.
Some hobby shops may carry them from another company but I am not sure.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by plasticmod992 on Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:32 PM
What I do is go to my local 1-hour photo shop and ask for their empty film canisters. They throw out thousands of these daily in my area, and most places are willing to give them away for FREE! I take a large tupperware container to the shop and fill it up, it's enough to last me for years! The last time I had to re-fill my container was in 2000, and I didn't spend a penny!
Greg Williams Owner/ Manager Modern Hobbies LLC Indianapolis, IN. IPMS #44084
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:16 PM
Plasticmod992, did you get my email?

(it says yes)

I used to use little pen caps and all, i dont mix paint anymore <--true story
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