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Thinking about trying a new line of paint
Posted by Compressorman on Friday, October 25, 2019 6:46 AM

I used to use Model Master and moved away from those because I had so many bottles turn into goop before they were even half emptied. I bought some Mission Models, which I really like because of the lower toxicity and zero odor of a water based paint. But, they are not perfect because they are a little thick. So I have considered having an alternate brand to draw upon when the need arises. I am wanting something that can be thinned down really thin for some subtle and precise detail work. I thought about Tamiya but dont want to be bothered by mixing colors, I have heard good things about AK, and AK Real Color (are they the same thing?) I am guessing that they can be thinned down to a very thin consistancy. I have also read about Hataka lacquers and they seem like a good thing too. Can anyone comment and advise? 

I used to airbrush motorcycle tanks and helmets and used House of Kolor on them. Those paints were an absolute dream to use, they could be made thinner than water and dried practically instantly. Would the Hataka paints perform like this?

Thanks

Chris

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Friday, October 25, 2019 7:56 AM

Compressorman

I have also read about Hataka lacquers and they seem like a good thing too. Can anyone comment and advise? 

I used to airbrush .... House of Kolor on them.

Would the Hataka paints perform like this?

Chris

 

I can't comment about others but my 2 schillings worth....
Don't know about the Hataka Lacquers but the Hataka acrylic line is the twitchiest I've ever used, you 'have' to prime first, especially resins, & you 'have' to use their specific acrylic thinners,or it won't stick to ANYTHING....

My go to for acrylic choice is yellow top MIG's especially now they do the WW2 British & American armour colours I need.

But if House of Kolor do the colo(u)rs you want, why not use them?

If you use a good quality primer like Badger StyNylRes you shouldn't worry to much about lacquers affecting the plastic. 

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Posted by Compressorman on Friday, October 25, 2019 8:02 AM

 


But if House of Kolor do the colo(u)rs you want, why not use them?

If you use a good quality primer like Badger StyNylRes you shouldn't worry to much about lacquers affecting the plastic. 
 

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HoK are a custom car paint. They do not make model type colors. I should have mentioned that I model military aircraft 

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Friday, October 25, 2019 11:58 AM

The Hataka lacquers are supposed to be quite good, they should be close to the HOC you like in terms of thinning and handling. And stinky of course being lacquer.

But you also should able to thin the Mission Models paints too, I would think that would be your most efficient short term solution. Then you could nose around at some other paints, maybe do some test shooting with a few.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, October 25, 2019 1:06 PM

I've used AK Real Color once so far and really like the paint. I did prime first so I can't comment as to adhesion on bare plastic, resin, metal, etc. But it's durability once cured is outstanding. My only gripe with the paint was that the finish was VERY gritty, but that could be due to using Tamiya thinner to thin it, based off being told at the LHS  that the two products are compatible. I have heard that it works better with Gunze self leveling thinner, but I have yet to try them together. We shall see.  I cant comment upon hand brushing yet either.

 

 

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Posted by tomwatkins45 on Friday, October 25, 2019 2:53 PM

i've sprayed several of the Hataka Orange Line lacquers using their propietary thinner to thin them and really like them. They sprayed very well, covered well, and dried quickly. My go-to paints for airbrushing have always been Floquil and Model Master enamel. The Hataka reminds me very much of the old Floquil lacquers.

Tom

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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Friday, November 8, 2019 7:44 AM
I recently bought some of AK's Real Color and from my limited use so far I'd have to say they spray very well. I did use the Real Color thinner and haven't had time to try others yet. The paint in some of the bottles was considerably thicker than others. Maybe that just has to do with the colors themselves, I don't know. They covered very well, dried quickly. I masked over some of them within a few minutes with a fresh piece of Frog masking tape and none of it pulled up when I removed the tape. I shot them with .050, .035 and .018 airbrushes with no problems. Way over reduced some Interior Green and Sea Blue and shot them with an .018 brush and it worked great. My sense of smell isn't that great but I get very little odor from these. They're still lacquer and should be treated accordingly but they didn't stink up the room. I did shoot them over primer and haven't tried any brush painting. Haven't painted a project yet, just testing. But I like them so far and they have many colors. I only wish they came in larger bottles. Like maybe 23ml. :-)

            

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