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Beginner's Questions on Wash-based Weathering Techniques

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Beginner's Questions on Wash-based Weathering Techniques
Posted by GovernorTarkin on Monday, January 27, 2020 11:11 AM

Hey all. New to the forums and returning to the hobby after many years. I assume washes and weathering are asked about a lot, so I've done my best to use the forum's search feature and apologize if any of these questions are redundant.

I've built three kits now since returning to the hobby, two of which were painted with an airbrush set purchased recently and used for the first time. None of these kits have been weathered in any way and I'd like to use the next few kits I work on as experiments for different weathering techniques.

I'm planning on building Revell's Republic Star Destroyer and will be using this video as a rough guide to follow for painting and weathering.

Based on much of what I've read on these forums and elsewhere, I'll be using Pledge Floor Gloss (Future) as the gloss coat before adding enamel based washes and weathering. My question at this point is, should the Floor Gloss coat be used in any sort of ratio? I've read in some places that in prep for a wash coat, Futures should be applied in a roughly 1:1 ratio with acrylic paint thinner. I've read other sources that seemed to imply just using Floor Gloss as the coat, full stop.

At this point, I have no experience with enamel products of any kind, having only pained with Tamiya acrylics. I know this is a broad question but, generally, how often should one leave an enamel wash on before proceeding to wipe it off/remove it? Seems like twenty to thirty minutes is long enough, but I've struggled a bit to see anything definitive.

My final question is regarding some pinwashing this guy utilizes in this video (appropriate time stamp is in the link). He's pinwashing some panel lines with a thinned out acrylic paint, over surface already painted with acrylics. My question is, how does he wipe off the blobs of excess paint if he's pinwashing with acrylics and the coat he's pinwashing over is acrylic as well? Wouldn't a light wipe down with thinner remove both the excess pinwash paint and the base coat?

Thanks for any help you might be able to offer!   

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Posted by arbit on Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM

You definitely spray future right out of the bottle.

Regarding questions such as: how to apply washes and enamels on it, how long to let it dry, how to clean it up, how to apply decals - I would say that it seems to react differentyl with different people.

So test your set up on lots of spoons,  take notes over a few weeks, and see what works for you.

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Posted by modelmaker66 on Thursday, January 30, 2020 3:53 PM

overnight is a good rule of thumb. But it may be different for you.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, January 30, 2020 4:30 PM

Regarding Future. Make sure that the paint that you are applying Future over is FULLY CURED. If you apply Future over uncured paint you will have a real mess on your hands.

I applied Future over paint that was not fully cured and the Future micro-cracked. This may sound insane, but I would let the paint, especially enamel,  cure for a week before applying Future.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by lowfly on Friday, January 31, 2020 2:37 PM

Hey JohnnyK My Mitchell did the same thing when i sprayed Future.  Let the paint dry. The next model sat for almost 3 weeks to cure as i was nervous.  Came out flawlessly

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Posted by E. Halibut on Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:42 PM

I've read in various articles in FSM over the years that it's best to let Future dry for at least two days before applying washes, etc., so that's what I do and I haven't had any problems.

Terry Jones, 1942-2020

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Sunday, February 2, 2020 8:57 AM

I watched the video and he said he put a clear coat on the model right after he painted the red paint, and you can see the glossiness of it. Then he detailed and weathered including the pin wash and after he was finished he says he put another gloss coat. So he is protecting the paint but I didn't hear what he used for a gloss coat. Good luck with it.

 

 

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