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  • Member since
    October 2016
  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
can you spray over clear parts?
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 11:41 AM

when airbrushing over clear parts, can i spray over them with clear coats and not loose the transparency or do they have to be have to be covered/protected?

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:49 PM

The only thing I ever put on clear parts is Future (sometimes.) Anything else, I would suggest you test first, on scrap clear plastic.  The clear coats might contain something that would cloud the part.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, January 29, 2020 1:29 PM

If the parts have flaws or flash that needs cleaning up with very fine sandpaper I use clearcoat to restore the transparency to remove the frost that sandpaper leaves.

BTW, if I am heavily weathering a model, I don't want the plexiglas to be to shiney.  Plexiglas, especially before the sixties, the plastic faded from UV as soon as it was exposed to sunlight, and would end up pretty foggy looking.  Had to replace windshield on an old 1:1 plane I bought.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Monday, February 3, 2020 7:06 PM

Clear flats,  Dullcoat lacquer, etc. will cloud the transparency.   Not recommended if you want to see through.  Same for satin coats

Clear gloss might not cloud the transparent part as much but will still affect the appearance.   Gloss coat lacquer needs to be judiciously thinned - the thinner may craze the plastic finish

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 3, 2020 7:15 PM

This becomes a really issue for passenger airliner models.

You really want to mask the clear.

And any hot lacquers- death.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    February 2020
Posted by MrchntMarine2 on Monday, February 3, 2020 10:52 PM

got it.  will tape and play it safe as i want to keep it transparent.  tks.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:27 AM

I have never had glosscoat, even the lacquer version, dull a kit transparency.  I don't know why- I wonder myself why. Maybe the kit transparencies are acrylic, not styrene.  They do seem harder than styrene.

I have airbrushed a light coat of dullcoat on the tops of canopies on aircraft I am going to heavily weather.  The acrylic canopies on older aircraft, WW2 and earlier, were not UV stabilized and faded/frosted after a couple of years in sunlight.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:31 AM

Hi Don;

      That's why some folks don't understand the costs of old aircraft. Tap Plastics in California had to make new Plexi panels for the  B -25 in many areas. Cost more than a new Kia Soul Today!

       As far as models I have never had a problem on that subject except one model that bugged me for years. I had gotten a Vac-Molded kit of a Pembroke. When I cleared it the windshield area  fogged. I had to remove it and make a new one out of Vacu-Formed styrene sheet!

 All I can say is I sure am glad I still have that Mattel "Vac-U-Form" machine . This is the second one. Someone permanently ( I don't know who ) borrowed the first one I had. This one has the original box, plastic panels and molds. It made( for the time ) some real cute little cars and stuff.

  • Member since
    October 2016
  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:36 PM

So I taped to be safe. Then, experimenting, I left the rear roof window untaped. No issue. Still crystal clear. 

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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