Oil paints?

The Winsor Newton Artisan range is "water mixable," and will clean up with soap and water. Theoretically, you can thin it with water, but it doesn't really work that well. The company itself recommneds their own Artisan thinner. I've tried using it for washes with the thinner, but the results are mixed: it's rather thick, and drying time is much longer than for regular oils (one model took three weeks to dry). The finish is sometimes unpredictable (on some models dead flat, on others glossy, on still others, flat with glossy spots). This might be acceptable for those who want to avoid the toxic/flammable concoctions usually used to thin oils.

Other things I've noticed: the Artisan thinner attacks Future with a vengeance, and Testor's Dullcote washes water mixable oils away (although that might have been my fault for not letting it cure enough; I sprayed it only two weeks after applying the oils).  

Another thing is that the wash remans workable for only a limited time, about 5-10 minutes, before it becomes tacky and starts pulling paint off if you try to shift it. Also, the thinner doesn't make the paint as thin as it does with regular thinners; it's not so good for pinwashes, and it works more like a glaze (as if you added Liquin to regular oils). Sometimes I use it that way to good effect.

All this being said, the water mixable oils do mix with regular thinners, and are easier to clean up. Also, you can do dot filters using a brush dampened only with water to good effect.    

Tks for the info. I didn't know what to think when I seen it. I'm trying to find a oil paint that I can use for weather and a wash. I want to be able to make the folds on the miniatures darker. I'm still learning on how to paint shades. I'm getting frustrated that I can't get it done right. I've tried using black first then paint my colors. But it doesn't look as dark as I think it should. It may be just me. I'm just now trying to get my weathering and highlighting done the right way I know it's a learning process but I get bent out of shape sometimes. Again tks for the info 

All I've got is a hobby lobby. Which is not that great. They have Vallejo and it's a slim selection. Not a whole lot for military colors. Just basic colors. Of course they've got model master and testor. They have some artistic paint that's tube type. I've gotta get my stuff via internet. So when I order something I've gotta make it count because of the shipping cost. But hey, it is what it is. I'm trying to find a site that sells citadel. 

MJames70

If you have a hobby shop local to you that specializes in miniatures gaming, you may want to look there for washes/shades by either Army Painter or Citadel. Both have a range of different colors, and are acrylics. Very easy to use.

 

That's good advice.

Every since my LHS shut down, I was also stuck with what I found at Hobby Lobby for paint and supplies. Of all places, the local comic book shop has become a regular place to shop. The owner has a full range of Vallejo's Model Air and Model Color lines, as well as Citadel and the Army Painter lines. He also stocks weathering pigments and diorama supplies, which is pretty surprising given that it's a comic shop. Heck, I've even bought a few DML figure kits from him!

He hosts regular painting clinics, seminars on airbrushing, and "build and take" events, which gives me plenty of excuses to stop in for the occasional bottle of paint.

Great place to shop, even if it's not a conventional LHS.

I only started using the Citadel "shades" a short while ago, but so far I like what I've seen. Much better in my opinion than the Vallejo washes, and even Citadel's earlier washes.    

What color citadel shade should I get for black. I've looked at them and the names are throwing me off a little. Is it the nulu oil shade or what. If you can tell anything I'd be grateful. Tks again 

Yes, Nuln Oil for black. My particular favourite is Agrax Earthshade, which is a dark earth colour that works very well on tank tracks and suspension. 

Tks for the info. Now I've gotta find a place to get them. I know eBay or Amazon will have. I've been using scale hobbyist and hobbylinc. I'm always looking for some other sites. I've been told about a scale75 site. But I've not checked it out yet.