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Hand Brushing Acrylics in a Dry Climate

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:06 AM

stikpusher

 

Ive never had any problems with tip dry when airbrushing Tamiya thinned with their thinner. Or on the occasions where I thin it with lacquer thinner. But I’ll keep that in mind for future project. 

Thanks to one and all who suggested using the retarder to alleviate this situation. 

 

Somehow when I think acrylic I tend to exclude Tamiya acrylics lol !! They're really a hybrid/ suito/  lacquer/acrylic. Strange animal but they do work great indeed.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:35 AM

oldermodelguy

 

 
stikpusher

Today I did more handbrushing of the Humbrol Acrylics, this time with some Tamiya Retarder added. 10 parts paint to 2 parts retarder. Worked out nicely. 

 

 

 

That's great ! You might try a little when airbrushing too if you have tip drying issues with acrylics, it will greatly retuce or even stop tip drying on your airbrush when that's a problem.

 

Ive never had any problems with tip dry when airbrushing Tamiya thinned with their thinner. Or on the occasions where I thin it with lacquer thinner. But I’ll keep that in mind for future project. 

Thanks to one and all who suggested using the retarder to alleviate this situation. 

 

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Saturday, April 11, 2020 6:48 AM

stikpusher

Today I did more handbrushing of the Humbrol Acrylics, this time with some Tamiya Retarder added. 10 parts paint to 2 parts retarder. Worked out nicely. 

 

That's great ! You might try a little when airbrushing too if you have tip drying issues with acrylics, it will greatly retuce or even stop tip drying on your airbrush when that's a problem.

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    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, April 10, 2020 7:09 PM

Today I did more handbrushing of the Humbrol Acrylics, this time with some Tamiya Retarder added. 10 parts paint to 2 parts retarder. Worked out nicely. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:00 PM

the Baron

I'd also use a wet palette, if you're not already doing so, Stik.

 

No I am not. I’ve never used one.

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 3:37 PM

I'd also use a wet palette, if you're not already doing so, Stik.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:37 PM

Thanks for the input guys. I’ll look into what retarder will work with the Testors and/or Humbrol acrylics. 

G, I would love to visit your islands again. It’s been almost 40 years since I was last there. Humid or not, I love the place.

 

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 6:20 AM

stikpusher

For most of my life I’ve lived in moderate humidity locations. Now I’m in Arizona, with its much dryer climate. On my first project here, I’ve been trying my hand at brush painting again, this time using acrylics, mostly Testors and Humbrol. On days when the humidity is really low, it seems like the paints dry extremely fast as your brushing them on. If I use a water moistened natural bristle brush, the paint lasts longer but I get uneven coats and streaking. Using a synthetic brush reduces this somewhat, but the fast drying is more pronounced. 

Any advice or tips to reduce or eliminate these problems? 

 

Retarder is your friend. Cut your paint a little bit usually with thinner, sometimes water depending on brand of paint, then add a little retarder to the mix. I use Liquitex brand retarder and so far that has worked in all my brands of acrylic paint I use, including when I airbrush ( to all but eliminate tip dry).. You will have extended dry times though in terms of touch or for masking ( maybe not so much in your really dry climate).

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  • From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posted by Real G on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:20 AM

Stik, if you ever decide to vacation in Hawaii, my friends and I can set you up to paint in near constant 70-80% humidity!  Just bring a model.  Or we can take you shopping for one while you are here!  Big Smile

I think my car modeling friends would rather be where you are!

BTW, congrats on your retirement - and thank you for your years of service.

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  • From: Maryland
Posted by wpwar11 on Monday, March 30, 2020 9:55 PM

I’ve seen some of your work here so this might be like a T-ball player giving baseball advice to Babe Ruth.  I dont own an airbrush yet and I probably made a mistake and bought several jars of Tamiya paints.  They are trouble to brush on in any climate.  Recently however I picked up their acrylic paint retarder.  It works really well.  Much better coverage and no brush streaks.  Can you find a suitable retarder for Humbrol or Testors systems?

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Hand Brushing Acrylics in a Dry Climate
Posted by stikpusher on Monday, March 30, 2020 6:44 PM

For most of my life I’ve lived in moderate humidity locations. Now I’m in Arizona, with its much dryer climate. On my first project here, I’ve been trying my hand at brush painting again, this time using acrylics, mostly Testors and Humbrol. On days when the humidity is really low, it seems like the paints dry extremely fast as your brushing them on. If I use a water moistened natural bristle brush, the paint lasts longer but I get uneven coats and streaking. Using a synthetic brush reduces this somewhat, but the fast drying is more pronounced. 

Any advice or tips to reduce or eliminate these problems? 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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