gunze sangyo paints

pingtang

Member since
April 2003
From: NSW, Australia

gunze sangyo paints

Posted by pingtang on Monday, April 12, 2004 6:47 AM

Gidday

Just a quick question, I just wanted to know if anyone had an opinion on gunze sangyo acrylic paints. Basicly I just want to know whether they're any good and if they go on well with an airbrush. Also, what can and can't you paint over the top of them.

Thank for your help

-Daniel

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Monday, April 12, 2004 8:48 AM

I personally love these paints Smile [:)]

Last time I used them was on a 1/72 scale Mi-24 Hind, about 5 months ago(had a short break due to my son being born Smile [:)]

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Through my airbrush, an Aztec 4709 at that time, they sprayed beautifully mixed with Tamiya thinners, about 60/40 paint/thinner.

This mix sprayed so well, I didnt even have to use any form of masking for the camo scheme.

The pigment density is super, but the hand painting characteristics is a little poor, but thats the same with most acrylics I feel.

As for painting over them, all I used was Gunze semi-gloss.
But this feels a little 'sticky' to touch even after curing, so I advise a coating of Pledge One-Go.
I also used Micro Sol and Set for the decals, and this didn't affect the paint at all.

Hope this helps Smile [:)]

Sean

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 12, 2004 1:18 PM

i think they are terrable for handpainting, but excelent for everything else especially drybrushing, because the pigments are thick, they easily rub off, making it easier to make your models more relistic. For airbrushing, they are pretty good, could be better if smaler pigments. for handbrushing, i prefer tamiya caus eof there better ocverage

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maddafinga

Member since
March 2003
From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma

Posted by maddafinga on Monday, April 12, 2004 6:38 PM

Congrats on your new son Tweety!

Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga

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plasticmod992

Member since
January 2003
From: The Hoosier State

Posted by plasticmod992 on Monday, April 12, 2004 8:07 PM

IMHO the finest acrylic model paint available. The finest "fine lines" with an acrylic I've seen. Also I found that I could brush paint fine. When I brush paint Gunze I keep a empty film canister filled with distilled water close for re-wetting the brush and brush paint to my hearts desire! Windex cleans my brushes very well after using Gunze.

Greg Williams Owner/ Manager Modern Hobbies LLC Indianapolis, IN. IPMS #44084

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 12, 2004 9:34 PM

but they own your wallet...

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:55 AM

I've only used them once. I brush painted them on and they worked well. Im not sure how exspensive they are in different regions but at my LHS they are always on sale for $1.25.

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South Aussie

Member since
August 2003
From: South Australia

Posted by South Aussie on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:41 AM

I've have used them in the past and found them very good for airbrushing but not so good for hand brushing. They also have a good range of colours available and are readily available in Australia.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

I personally love these paints
Last time I used them was on a 1/72 scale Mi-24 Hind, about 5 months ago(had a short break due to my son being born)

Congrats on the birth of your son tweety1, I hope you are training him to be a modeller, never to young to start.

Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:33 AM

I love Gunze, both the acrylics and the lacquers. I primarily use Tamiya enamels and acrylics, but the number of Gunze bottles on the workbench is catching up.
Great paint!

~Brian

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:07 PM

how are tamiya enamals?arnt they the ones that come in little glass bottles?

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:42 AM

I switched to Gunze a few months back after picking up a bottle of their RLM02 last year.

The finish is way better than the one I get with Lifecolour, and they airbrush beautifully.

As for brush painting, I usually thin them a little, and that works fine.

What's more I have found a stockist in the UK who sells them for a £1 a pot!!!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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J-Hulk

Member since
February 2003
From: Tochigi, Japan

Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:19 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

how are tamiya enamals?arnt they the ones that come in little glass bottles?

Kinda the same as Testors little glass bottles. The acrylics come in larger bottles, the mouths of which are the same diameter as the body.
I like 'em all.

~Brian

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 6:23 AM

Thanks madda and South Big Smile [:D]

Couldn't be happier with the lil' tike, except at 3 in the morning Sad [:(]

But then he is his mothers son Big Smile [:D]

And yes, I will be trying as hard as I can to encourage him to be the 'Next Gen' of modellers Wink [;)]

Besides, the way I figure it, by the time he is old enough to use his own knife, he will have to start replacing all the models he broke when he was 2 Big Smile [:D]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:55 AM

Gunze takes takes a long time to cure though. Sometime they seem to never dry. Not the best for brush painting either. Other than these, it's excellent.

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:20 AM

Hungfarlow, what are you thinning them with?

I have thinned with both distilled water and Tamiya acrylic thinner and have had no problems with drying at all.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:02 AM

I thin with Tamiya thinner or rubbing alchohol. I can airbrush Gunze pretty well but occasionally it will have drying problems.

I don't have too many Gunze bottles left. I'm trying to clear out my inventory and reduce the different brands I have. I hundreds and hundreds of bottles (tins) of paint from just about every manufacturer in the world in both acrylics and enamel.

I seem to have a bigger problem collecting paint than model kits.

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:41 AM

Strange, the drying problem, not the paint collecting habit. Been there done that in my teenage incarnation as a modeller!

Can't say I have ever had a problem with any paints drying, especially not Gunze.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:50 AM

If you pour your Gunze paint look at some of the bottles. You might have runs outside the bottle. The runs will seem to never dry. You can also look at the thread of the bottle where the paint collects. That's the kind of behavior I have seen with Gunze when sprayed.

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 9:07 AM

Hunfarlow, I can honestly say that i have never had that problem.

I know Seattle if wet, but I didn't think it was that humid!!!!!!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 24, 2004 2:36 PM

same here, it happens so often, but i only have 3 gunze's and they all have those problems.... tamiyas on the other hand...

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:23 PM

That is so strange.......

.....I've never had that happen once, with any paint.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:28 AM

Seattle has just about the same environmental condition as the UK. Get's wet but doesn't get humid when it's warm.

Pour a little glob on a piece of cardboard and leave it for a few days and see if that drys and hardens.

Congrats on making Mult-media!

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:35 AM

I'll try that, but I usually aim for a thinner coat than that when spraying! Wink [;)]

Sorry couldn't resist that.

Thanks, it seem to have taken a long time to hit the 500 post mark.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Helo H-34

Member since
September 2003
From: Australia

Posted by Helo H-34 on Friday, June 4, 2004 10:48 PM

I've been airbrushing for just on 2 years now ,using gunze acrylics always liked the finish . I thinned the paint with isopropyl alcohol 50/50 ; Tried tamiya acrylics a couple of times and they were ok too....But some tamiya colors are a poor match for [FS] Federal Standard colors. I was curious to read tweety's comments on spraying Pledge-one go through his A4709 airbrush ; This product is suppose to be similar to Future ,however when i tried using Pledge-one go , I think it ruined my airbrush...damaging the seals around the trigger mechanism !! The only time over 2 years I changed from spraying acrylics . I always throughly cleaned my airbrush and nozzles after each use.. From now on I'll stick to using gunze and tamiya clear acrylics. I'm currently deciding to replace my aztek A4709 with either an Iwata revolution CR or a Badger 150/360 ? Depends on the price difference and the availability of spare parts in Australia.

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 5, 2004 12:13 AM

i say go with the Revolution if you're spraying metallics, go with the 360 if you spray LOTS of paint or need little details, and go for the 150 overall, i recommend the Hp-CS (everyone uses it) and the 155 because spare parts are so cheap.

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tweety1

Member since
August 2003
From: Alice Springs Australia

Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, June 5, 2004 3:56 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by J D Yahl

I've been airbrushing for just on 2 years now ,using gunze acrylics always liked the finish . I thinned the paint with isopropyl alcohol 50/50 ; Tried tamiya acrylics a couple of times and they were ok too....But some tamiya colors are a poor match for [FS] Federal Standard colors. I was curious to read tweety's comments on spraying Pledge-one go through his A4709 airbrush ; This product is suppose to be similar to Future ,however when i tried using Pledge-one go , I think it ruined my airbrush...damaging the seals around the trigger mechanism !! The only time over 2 years I changed from spraying acrylics . I always throughly cleaned my airbrush and nozzles after each use.. From now on I'll stick to using gunze and tamiya clear acrylics. I'm currently deciding to replace my aztek A4709 with either an Iwata revolution CR or a Badger 150/360 ? Depends on the price difference and the availability of spare parts in Australia.

I had no problems spraying Pledge through the Aztek, considering it is an ACRYLIC floor polish!! Smile [:)]

But using the Aztek you have to be sure to clean it out THOROUGHLY, or else it will gumm stuff up.

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 6, 2004 1:11 PM

For the Life of me I cannot find Gunze Sangyo on the shelf looking pretty in the U.S. lol. I am ordering mine online. Will be the first time I have used them, look forward to trying them. This Forum has gt me set up well for them when they get here.

-Jeff

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