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Delstar DTR 602 Acrylic Enamel Reducer

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  • Member since
    August 2020
  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Delstar DTR 602 Acrylic Enamel Reducer
Posted by Deaf Smith on Sunday, September 6, 2020 10:28 AM

Wondering if anyone is acquainted with this reducer. I began again last month the project  that I left off thirty years ago... building in 1/72 all the aircraft the Blues flew.  I built the F6F and F8F at that time. I used for those models the DTR 602 but here's the deal.  I painted those models with actual Blue Angel blue (wrong blue, I know) from paint that the maintenance crew gave me when I visited in 1990 the Blue's hanger at NAS Pensacola, where they allowed me to photograph for detail purposes anything on the aircraft's exterior.

I used this DTR 602 with that paint. I'm starting over and using MM enamels and Testors gloss, which gloss looks awesome to this day on 30 year old models.  What I cannot remember is if I used this reducer with any MM, Pactra, or Floquil enamels back in the day.

Can I use this with MM enamel and lacquer or is it too hot.

Deaf Smith

  • Member since
    November 2018
Posted by oldermodelguy on Sunday, September 6, 2020 2:36 PM

I think you will find it not to work so hot, being a medium dry solven based acrylic enamel reducer. MM is a synthetic enamel, much more like, in fact probably is alkyd resin enamel. These used the equivelent of Dupont 3812 reducer but both hardware store lacquer thinner and mineral spirits thins MM enamels fine (great flow out with the LT). Conduct a test but I don't recall from my 1/1 days acrylic enamel reducer working properly in synthetic enamels. Just my take.

  • Member since
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  • From: Fort Worth, Texas
Posted by Deaf Smith on Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:29 PM

[quote user="oldermodelguy"]

I think you will find it not to work so hot, being a medium dry solven based acrylic enamel reducer. MM is a synthetic enamel, much more like, in fact probably is alkyd resin enamel. These used the equivelent of Dupont 3812 reducer but both hardware store lacquer thinner and mineral spirits thins MM enamels fine (great flow out with the LT). Conduct a test but I don't recall from my 1/1 days acrylic enamel reducer working properly in synthetic enamels. Just my take.

 

Many thanks, kinda what I suspected.  How do you think it might perform with Testors lacquer dull and gloss coats?

Deaf Smith

  • Member since
    November 2018
Posted by oldermodelguy on Monday, September 7, 2020 7:57 AM

[quote user="Deaf Smith"]

oldermodelguy

I think you will find it not to work so hot, being a medium dry solven based acrylic enamel reducer. MM is a synthetic enamel, much more like, in fact probably is alkyd resin enamel. These used the equivelent of Dupont 3812 reducer but both hardware store lacquer thinner and mineral spirits thins MM enamels fine (great flow out with the LT). Conduct a test but I don't recall from my 1/1 days acrylic enamel reducer working properly in synthetic enamels. Just my take.

 

Many thanks, kinda what I suspected.  How do you think it might perform with Testors lacquer dull and gloss coats?

 

It's funny how you can cut about anything with lacquer thinner but it doesn't go the other way around. You can't cut lacquers with much of anything but lacquer thinner. I mean regular old solvent based lacquers.

There is an exception with some of the new lacquers coming out for hobby use but even those don't like enamel reducers. Odd, water works, LT, alcohol, X-22, even Vallejo thinner but not enamel reducer. Still, you might want to test a little for yourself, it's been quite a whie since shooting solvent based acrylic enamels with medium dry solvents made for them like your Delstar.

 

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