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Can I use a regular face mask for airbrushing?
Posted by Teenage Modeler on Monday, February 1, 2021 7:21 PM

Well, hi. I am currently painting with only a regular, one-use disposable face mask. Is that sufficient enough? Like this one

If I have to buy a face mask, Should I buy the N95 Mask from 3M? If not, any recommendations as to what mask I have to use?

I am a teenager, and I am just as interested in this hobby as all the adults.

 

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, February 1, 2021 7:36 PM

As a 1:1 auto painter, I'll suggest a replaceable filter auto painter mask, from 3M.  Can be had at any body/paint store, or large parts store, or online.

The masks you show are good for dust, but not meant for paint.  They might do in a pinch for water based stuff, but you're better off going the other route.

If stored in a sealed bag or plastic container, like a tupperware canister or sealable coffee can, the filters will last longer.

Inhaling paint Voc's and small particles is not something to take lightly.  You can liken it to coal miner's black lung.

Search for paint respirator.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, February 1, 2021 8:02 PM

If you can smell paint thru your mask,then it's not effective.I bought a regular 3m respirator,couldn't be more the 40 bucks and I don't smell anything while painting.

I also wear it to the grocery store I don't catch Covid

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 1, 2021 8:15 PM

Please also be really considerate of your roomates. Cats and dogs have tiny little lungs and they should be kept away from fumes.

 

Bill

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, February 1, 2021 8:21 PM

The pic in tojo's post is the one.  Cartridges should be replaceable.

Might think about using an appropriate sized cardboard box, vent outside using a window with a fan behind you.  Will help contain overspray as well.   Makes parents happy too, don't ask....Embarrassed

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Posted by wpwar11 on Monday, February 1, 2021 9:39 PM

Good to know.  I've been using the N95.  I'll definitely upgrade.

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, February 1, 2021 10:07 PM

I have that same respirator Tojo 3M performance respirator.  Only drawback is wearing my glasses while painting can be a chore.  Just checked on amazon where I got mine and it says:

Prioritized for organizations on the front lines responding to COVID-19.

I paid $25.73 in may of 2019.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, February 1, 2021 10:35 PM

That's why I suggested paint supply or parts store.  Price will be a little more stable than on-line scalpers.

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 2:13 AM

Tojo72

If you can smell paint thru your mask,then it's not effective.I bought a regular 3m respirator,couldn't be more the 40 bucks and I don't smell anything while painting.



I have two 7500 series 3M Masks, similar to above.They are soft Sillicone, fit very well with GLASSES on and I have a BEARD, with no problems.

As above, box VOC filters with white clip-on dust pads. If you can smell it, get new filters.

The 7502 is medium (S=7501 L=7503).

PS I cought Covid-19 in hospital, go figure!

 

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 2:14 AM

keavdog

I have that same respirator Tojo 3M performance respirator.  Only drawback is wearing my glasses while painting can be a chore. 

 

I have two 7500 series 3M Masks. They are soft Sillicone, fit very well with GLASSES on and I have a BEARD, with no problems.

East Mids Model Club 29th Annual Show 19th MAY 2019

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 5:39 AM

I use N95 for acrylics, the fancy 3M ones with the exhaust vent are quit effective. Course you can't find them right now lol. But if you use a spray booth with vent even solvent paints are not saturating the air enough to smell through the N95 I use ( I can't speak for the style you have). I just shot some lacquer over the weekend no problem and hot type lacquer will about blow my head off if I smell it. I really never got along with it even just mixing the stuff without a proper mask in 1/1. However, if I shot solvent paints all the time I'd use the replacable cartridge mask as above ( I have one in P95 cartridge form rated for solvent paints, it's a 6000 series mask). But I'm using about 90% acrylics now. The N95 is fine for acrylic particles. With solvent paints even if the particles are removed the fumes get you but my booth takes most of those away anyway.

I agree with consideration of pets etc.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 11:54 AM

GMorrison

Please also be really considerate of your roomates. Cats and dogs have tiny little lungs and they should be kept away from fumes. 

Bill 

If I may follow up on Bill's advice, I'd add that you should think about getting yourself a spray booth, eventually, with powered ventilation to help remove the fumes and particulates in the air as much as possible.

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 12:00 PM

Jon_a_its

 

 
keavdog

I have that same respirator Tojo 3M performance respirator.  Only drawback is wearing my glasses while painting can be a chore. 

 

 

I have two 7500 series 3M Masks. They are soft Sillicone, fit very well with GLASSES on and I have a BEARD, with no problems.

 

Thanks - I may pick one up.  Looks like I can use the same filters.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Back to the bench on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 2:16 PM

This is the 3M mask that I have been using...

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Facepiece-Respirator-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B008MCUT86/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=3M+Rugged+Comfort+Half+Facepiece+Reusable+Respirator+7502%2C+Medium&qid=1610475731&sr=8-7

And the the filter cartridges rated for organic vapors...

https://www.amazon.com/3M-6001PB1-1-Organic-Vapor-Cartridge/dp/B00GXKNBT8/ref=pd_sbs_469_2/142-4046958-5527704?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00GXKNBT8&pd_rd_r=942b97da-40fc-4aed-b7fe-395fcb6db7c9&pd_rd_w=S557E&pd_rd_wg=0zeSA&pf_rd_p=3ec6a47e-bf65-49f8-80f7-0d7c7c7ce2ca&pf_rd_r=8GB4H2Y04H1BZ48WK13F&psc=1&refRID=8GB4H2Y04H1BZ48WK13F#customerReviews

I believe you can order refill pads for the cartridge assembly but I have not tried that route yet.

If you wear glasses this mask is nice because it is configured to direct your exhaled breath straight down and that pretty much eliminates fogged lenses on your glasses.

Gil
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Posted by rcguy on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 2:51 PM

I also use a 3M respirator 7500 series but I use the P100/60926 multi gas cartridges that cover all bases.

Also beards and respirators don't go together.

The respirator will not seal properly around a beard so you might as well not even bother putting one on.

My experience from 32 years in metal fabrication/welding and powder coating.

 

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Posted by Teenage Modeler on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 6:19 PM

*Answering The Baron's question

 

I already have one. I built one out of a bathroom exhaust, and an old container bin

I am a teenager, and I am just as interested in this hobby as all the adults.

 

 

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Posted by Back to the bench on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 7:28 AM

rcguy,

thanks for the info on the multi gas cartridges I will look into those.

Glad you take your health and safety seriously. I met a former welder in his 50s at my job many years ago who had not taken precautions seriously. He told me that he could no longer weld because he had lost a kidney due to the chromium and other heavy metals that he breathed during the welding process precipitating out in his kidneys. He was hoping that his other kidney would remain healthy enough to stay intact.

Gil
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Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 12:01 PM

Back to the bench

This is the 3M mask that I have been using...

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Facepiece-Respirator-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B008MCUT86/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=3M+Rugged+Comfort+Half+Facepiece+Reusable+Respirator+7502%2C+Medium&qid=1610475731&sr=8-7

And the the filter cartridges rated for organic vapors...

https://www.amazon.com/3M-6001PB1-1-Organic-Vapor-Cartridge/dp/B00GXKNBT8/ref=pd_sbs_469_2/142-4046958-5527704?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00GXKNBT8&pd_rd_r=942b97da-40fc-4aed-b7fe-395fcb6db7c9&pd_rd_w=S557E&pd_rd_wg=0zeSA&pf_rd_p=3ec6a47e-bf65-49f8-80f7-0d7c7c7ce2ca&pf_rd_r=8GB4H2Y04H1BZ48WK13F&psc=1&refRID=8GB4H2Y04H1BZ48WK13F#customerReviews

I believe you can order refill pads for the cartridge assembly but I have not tried that route yet.

If you wear glasses this mask is nice because it is configured to direct your exhaled breath straight down and that pretty much eliminates fogged lenses on your glasses.

 

 
This is my rig, the White dust pad pre-filter refills come in 10-packs.
 
As I said, I wear glasses, no problems, & I keep my beard SHORT no#2 cut, because, CPAP machine with Darth Vader Mask...

East Mids Model Club 29th Annual Show 19th MAY 2019

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Don't feed the CM!

 

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 12:07 PM

rcguy

Also beards and respirators don't go together.

The respirator will not seal properly around a beard so you might as well not even bother putting one on.

My experience from 32 years in metal fabrication/welding and powder coating.

 

As I said, I have  a beard, I keep it SHORT no#2 cut, no problems, because, CPAP machine with Darth Vader Mask...

Neither give me problems, because I no longer do metal finishing, stove enameling or powder coating... 
(Did a lot of sub-contracting finishing for Norton motorbikes & racing teams amongst others) 

East Mids Model Club 29th Annual Show 19th MAY 2019

 http://www.eastmidsmodelclub.co.uk/

Don't feed the CM!

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 12:26 PM

Teenage Modeler

*Answering The Baron's question 

I already have one. I built one out of a bathroom exhaust, and an old container bin

 
And vented to the outside? Wink

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Posted by Teenage Modeler on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:06 PM
Yes. The Exhaust fan has a duct, and I attached a metal exhaust tube that attaches to an outlet that leads outside. So all the paint is going outside ;)

I am a teenager, and I am just as interested in this hobby as all the adults.

 

 

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