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acrylic vs lacquer primers
Posted by JimLo on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:11 PM

I know that certain types of paints can't be used over others but since there are acrylic primers and lacquer primers does it make a difference? Since its a primer isn't it made to stick on any type of surface/paint?

Can I use an acrylic primer for lacquer paints?

Thanks

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:47 PM

Lacquer and enamel Primers have more bite then acrylic Primers and are much tougher,won't pull up with masking tape.

That being said many swear by Badger Stynylrez primer.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:57 PM

You can put any type of paint over any other type of paint, as long as you're airbrushing it and you allow sufficient time for whatever paint you're using to fully cure before putting the next color on top of it.  As for primers, I have no reason to use anything other than Tamiya Surface Primer, which is lacquer-based.  Haven't tried Stynylrez, but the Tamiya primer beats everything else that I have tried.  I decant mine and thin it with MEK for airbrushing and it grabs onto the plastic with a death grip.  With an airbrush, you can put it on thin enough to not lose any of the fine details on your model.

To answer your question in another thread, white primer is best under something you want painted white.  In fact, many go with just the white primer and put a clearcoat of the desired sheen on top of it.  White paints, for the most part, tend to be finicky about not giving you orange peel.  I have found Tamiya's acrylic white paints to lay down pretty smoothly though...even the gloss white levels out nicely.

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Posted by JimLo on Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:09 AM

Thanks. I agree on the Tamiya Primers. I have never had less than stellar results with them. I may try the Mr. Hobby primers too.

I will use a white primer under my white paint thanks. I will just have to keep a close eye on it while painting over the primer. 

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Posted by JimLo on Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:12 AM

Isn't Stynylrez acrylic?

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Thursday, April 29, 2021 4:24 AM

JimLo

Isn't Stynylrez acrylic?

 

It's a sandable polyresin acrylic primer sealer, not to be confused with Vallejos non sanding poly acrylic primer ( different animal). Additionally it sticks very well to plastic .

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:34 AM

JimLo

Isn't Stynylrez acrylic?

 

Yes,it is

I have a bottle,tried it once and liked the way it sprayed,leveled,and sanded.Just didn't like the way it jammed my airbrush.It required a complete disassemble.

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Posted by MJY65 on Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:55 AM

Tojo72

 

 
JimLo

Isn't Stynylrez acrylic?

 

 

 

Yes,it is

I have a bottle,tried it once and liked the way it sprayed,leveled,and sanded.Just didn't like the way it jammed my airbrush.It required a complete disassemble.

 

 

I agree.  Beautiful result on the model with a miserable cleanup after.  

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, April 29, 2021 8:17 AM

The primer I ordinarily use is a light gray. I have no problem covering it with white.  I would not use a dark primer under white, though.  You can do it with enough coats, but of course many coats can tend to soften fine details.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, April 29, 2021 9:26 AM

MJY65

 

 
Tojo72

 

 
JimLo

Isn't Stynylrez acrylic?

 

 

 

Yes,it is

I have a bottle,tried it once and liked the way it sprayed,leveled,and sanded.Just didn't like the way it jammed my airbrush.It required a complete disassemble.

 

 

 

 

I agree.  Beautiful result on the model with a miserable cleanup after.  

 

To me, the key has been to clean up immediately after the spray session, and no pauses in the session itself.

That said, I've pretty much taken to spray rinsing and cleaning with lacquer thinner now that I have a proper booth. That sort of defeats the purpose if one's reason for using the product is to avoid solvent-based fumes, I guess.

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:59 AM

Greg

 

 
MJY65

 

 
Tojo72

 

 
JimLo

Isn't Stynylrez acrylic?

 

 

 

Yes,it is

I have a bottle,tried it once and liked the way it sprayed,leveled,and sanded.Just didn't like the way it jammed my airbrush.It required a complete disassemble.

 

 

 

 

I agree.  Beautiful result on the model with a miserable cleanup after.  

 

 

 

To me, the key has been to clean up immediately after the spray session, and no pauses in the session itself.

That said, I've pretty much taken to spray rinsing and cleaning with lacquer thinner now that I have a proper booth. That sort of defeats the purpose if one's reason for using the product is to avoid solvent-based fumes, I guess.

 

Same here, clean up right away. Since I'm generally spraying in the kitchen I just go to the kitchen sink and shoot a bunch of hot water through, back flush a few times. Then the same with 91% alcohol and another rinse and flush with cool water. Done deal, no tear down. Maybe swab out the front cone with a q tip.

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Posted by montague on Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:08 PM

cleanup with lacquer thinner. no hassle.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:43 PM

montague

cleanup with lacquer thinner. no hassle.

 

Uh uh,that's what I used,still a mess

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