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Priming and Clear Coating all parts?

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Priming and Clear Coating all parts?
Posted by Teenage Modeler on Sunday, June 12, 2022 4:03 PM

I just want to ask if you have to prime and clear coat every part in a model. I know that that is not always the case, but I have no idea what the exception is to not clear coat a piece in a model.

I know for a fact that you have to prime the body of a car or the fuselage of a plane, as well as some parts where you plan to weather them or things that touch a surface (landing gears on table) but small parts such as the control stick, or a handbrake for instance.

I pretty much answered my question above, but I would like to hear more examples and exceptions to the rule of priming or clear coating.

Don't get me wrong, there ARE people that never prime their models and get away with good results, but at the same time, I would like to prime to make sure that the paint will not peel away easily. I do not want to use primer all the time because I have a small budget. 


I have asked this question before last year, but I am still stumped. Any ideas?

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Posted by MJY65 on Sunday, June 12, 2022 4:24 PM

I don't prime small parts that have no seams and won't be handled.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, June 12, 2022 4:35 PM

Hello!

It's worth noting, that you don't prime and clear-coat driven by custom or a religious belief - you do it for a reason. If there's no reason, you don't do it. Thing is, very often there is a reason.

For example - it I paint with acrylics I want them to stick to the surface (normally they don't want to stick very much) - I apply primer to help with that. I also prime under colours that don't want to cover (white, yellow, red). And to check for surface defects.

But then if I used Humbrol paints of a nice handling colour on a good surface, then I wouldn't bother. Things like your control stick are a good one, too.

Same with clear coats. Much of them goes on because of decals, but if, say the markings were painted on than there would be less need for them - but then there's weathering. Or if the paint went on gloss then there would be no need to gloss-coat under the decals.

Hope it helps - good luck with your builds and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Sunday, June 12, 2022 5:55 PM

I always prime everything before painting.  Doing that has shown me on multiple occasions when I missed cleaning up a parting line or filling an ejector pin mark so I can get any strays cleaned up before the final paint goes on.

Since I'm using almost all MRP lacquers at this point, I don't usually bother with a clearcoat before decals because almost all of the MRP paints are semi-gloss and accept decals really well without getting silvering.  I clearcoat after decals to protect them from my water-based Flory washes that I use for weathering...usually using either Semi Gloss or Semi Matte clearcoat, depending on how much "staining" I want from the wash.  After that's done, I put on a final clearcoat to seal everything in and what sheen I select is based on what the real-world object looks like.  Really like the MRP Semi Matte clearcoat for cockpits because that's the sheen they have in real life.

Its good to come to places like this and get advice, but try not to take our advice as an "always do this" or "always do that" set of absolutes.  Try the various pieces of advice out and see what works best for you and your building style.  I've been building models for a while and am still constantly learning and trying new techniques on my builds...its what keeps it interesting.

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  • From: Somewhere near Chicago
Posted by Teenage Modeler on Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:27 PM

Eaglecash867

I always prime everything before painting.  Doing that has shown me on multiple occasions when I missed cleaning up a parting line or filling an ejector pin mark so I can get any strays cleaned up before the final paint goes on.

Since I'm using almost all MRP lacquers at this point, I don't usually bother with a clearcoat before decals because almost all of the MRP paints are semi-gloss and accept decals really well without getting silvering.  I clearcoat after decals to protect them from my water-based Flory washes that I use for weathering...usually using either Semi Gloss or Semi Matte clearcoat, depending on how much "staining" I want from the wash.  After that's done, I put on a final clearcoat to seal everything in and what sheen I select is based on what the real-world object looks like.  Really like the MRP Semi Matte clearcoat for cockpits because that's the sheen they have in real life.

Its good to come to places like this and get advice, but try not to take our advice as an "always do this" or "always do that" set of absolutes.  Try the various pieces of advice out and see what works best for you and your building style.  I've been building models for a while and am still constantly learning and trying new techniques on my builds...its what keeps it interesting.

 

 

Thanks for the tip, man. I like how you included how some modeling techniques and things that I hear are the things that I have to do. It's the fact that this hobby has a lot of experimentation involved and there is no one size fits all technique, but something that works. Thanks for the note, and that reminded me of my dad telling me things such as "you don't need to buy red gloss as per the instructions say. You can just use flat red and clear it with gloss." 

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