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Once you go laquer you never go baquer
Posted by PhilliePhan79 on Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:47 PM

I reached a point of reckoning.  Paint job after paint job ruined with improper thinning.  Airbrush spitting up on my finish.  Spidering.  Disassembling my airbrush constantly to deep clean.

I told myself that I needed a solution or I'm done.

I remember someone mentioning MRP laquers were good.  I bought some for the F4D Skyray that I am building.  Removed my ruined paint job, and reshot it with MRP.  All I can say is WOW.  Straight from the bottle I got a beautiful flow that my Iwata had perfect control over.  No dry tip.  Great coverage (with white even) and a beautiful eggshell finish.

I like the hobby again!

 

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, November 2, 2023 9:22 PM

I'm a big fan of MRP paints.  Glad you found a solution

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Friday, November 3, 2023 5:55 AM

I'm a card-carrying member of the MRP too, and it couldn't have been said any better than the way you said it in your topic.  Just wait until you see how much more durable it is and how quickly you get a complete cure of the paint.  For detail painting over the top of the MRP, give your old Model Master and Testors square bottle enamels a try some time.  They won't attack the lacquer and cause it to lift, and you can completely erase any errant brush strokes with a paint thinner-dampened Q-Tip without doing a thing to the lacquer.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Friday, November 3, 2023 8:09 AM

You get the same results with Tamiya LP lacquers thinned with Mr Leveling Thinner just about 50/50. Gorgeous finish from those too. Course it's not a one bottle solution and MRP probably has more color options. But for my use the LP has been great.

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Posted by Strongeagle on Friday, November 3, 2023 9:38 AM

oldermodelguy

You get the same results with Tamiya LP lacquers thinned with Mr Leveling Thinner just about 50/50. Gorgeous finish from those too. Course it's not a one bottle solution and MRP probably has more color options. But for my use the LP has been great.

 

LP for me too!  I painted a Revell VW Bug orange 3 times with Tamiya Acrylic and had to strip it off three times due to subtle Orange Peel (Imagine Orange Peel with Orange Paint).  Anyway, I shot it again yesterday with Tamiya LP Orange (mixed with a bit of LP Red) and it turned out wonderful.  Used an Iwata Eclipse for all painting. No peel, just a hard, shiny, beautiful paint job.  Lacquer I love you.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Friday, November 3, 2023 10:47 AM

oldermodelguy

You get the same results with Tamiya LP lacquers thinned with Mr Leveling Thinner just about 50/50. Gorgeous finish from those too. Course it's not a one bottle solution and MRP probably has more color options. But for my use the LP has been great.

 

I have definitely found the Tamiya LP lacquers thinned with Mr. Leveling Thinner to produce a better gloss than what I'm able to achieve with MRP, so its also in the arsenal, especially for use as the black basecoat for Alclad.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by PhilliePhan79 on Friday, November 3, 2023 11:19 AM

Eaglecash867

I'm a card-carrying member of the MRP too, and it couldn't have been said any better than the way you said it in your topic.  Just wait until you see how much more durable it is and how quickly you get a complete cure of the paint.  For detail painting over the top of the MRP, give your old Model Master and Testors square bottle enamels a try some time.  They won't attack the lacquer and cause it to lift, and you can completely erase any errant brush strokes with a paint thinner-dampened Q-Tip without doing a thing to the lacquer.

 

 

Thanks for the tips.  

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    February 2020
Posted by PhilliePhan79 on Friday, November 3, 2023 11:25 AM

Thanks for the endorsement of Tamiya LP.  I'll give that a try too.  As far as acrylics go Tamiya gave me the best results.  But white, yellow and red were still very challenging.  Some times I'd get lucky.  Sometimes I'd destroy a project.  

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    February 2021
Posted by MJY65 on Friday, November 3, 2023 3:13 PM

MRP fan here, too.   I've got a few Mr Hobby lacquers for specific colors and a full set of Tamiya acrylics for the occasional brush detail in a cockpit, etc.   I have quite a collection of Mission Models and Vallejo acrylics that I never use after really trying to like them.  I suspect they'll sit on my shelf until I decide to toss them.  

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Friday, November 3, 2023 5:11 PM

Strongeagle

 

 
oldermodelguy

You get the same results with Tamiya LP lacquers thinned with Mr Leveling Thinner just about 50/50. Gorgeous finish from those too. Course it's not a one bottle solution and MRP probably has more color options. But for my use the LP has been great.

 

 

 

LP for me too!  I painted a Revell VW Bug orange 3 times with Tamiya Acrylic and had to strip it off three times due to subtle Orange Peel (Imagine Orange Peel with Orange Paint).  Anyway, I shot it again yesterday with Tamiya LP Orange (mixed with a bit of LP Red) and it turned out wonderful.  Used an Iwata Eclipse for all painting. No peel, just a hard, shiny, beautiful paint job.  Lacquer I love you.

 

I agree, as good as Tamiya acrylic can be ,it also can throw a curve ball. I like to say it sprays much like lacquer, which is true till the day it gives you fits ! I find Mr Leveling thinner in that too goes a long way towards a nice finish though.

The only thing with LP is my local hobby store supply chain can fail. Not sure about online. But online lately Mr Hobby Leveling Thinner has been going out of stock. My local store doesn't even stock Mr products.

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    February 2020
Posted by PhilliePhan79 on Friday, November 3, 2023 5:34 PM

oldermodelguy

I agree, as good as Tamiya acrylic can be ,it also can throw a curve ball. I like to say it sprays much like lacquer, which is true till the day it gives you fits ! I find Mr Leveling thinner in that too goes a long way towards a nice finish though.

As far as acrylics I've had the most success with Tamiya.  But I like how you said.  They are fine until they are not.  Mission Models are pretty good , but not durable unless you use the poly additive.  At which point I lose my flow.  Never figured it out.  

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