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                        I tried out the Iwata HP-CS

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 3, 2004 4:01 AM
                        I don't like the stiff trigger on my Iwata.

                        The price change is really due to the drop in the dollar recently. US exporters are really happy. All of a sudden they have a price advantage overseas against their European and Japanese competitors without having to skim on margins.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 2, 2004 9:00 PM
                        so thats why you should buy iwata Wink [;)]
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 2, 2004 1:00 PM
                        Thanks Mike.

                        I do understand that a smoother surface is easier to clean, that is if you are not using Acryl. Laugh [(-D]
                        That stuff is hard to wipe clean even on a smooth surface.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        renarts
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                        • From: Sunny Florida
                        Posted by renarts on Sunday, May 2, 2004 12:44 PM
                        I use Aztek for some applications and my Iwata for others. Different jobs, different applications, different airbrushes.

                        One of the reasons that the body of an airbrush is finished so smoothly Mike is that a polished surface cleans easier than a rough surface. That mirror shine that the iwata has will allow you to just wipe, even dried paint, off with your finger or a rag. It does have its aesthetic qualities and is a marketing tool. Look at what Aztek did with its new metal bodied airbrush.

                        Thanks for the review.

                        Mike
                        Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 2, 2004 12:18 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by plasticmod992

                        Mike,

                        Thanks for the kind words sir. Hey I saw your in-progress photos of your Skyraider...looking good. Please grace us with some pics here of your finished bird. I think it would be a good pictorial example of what the Omni can do!


                        I will definitely do that, although I am not freehanding the paint job as the Skyraider has fairly sharp demarcation lines.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        plasticmod992
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                        • From: The Hoosier State
                        Posted by plasticmod992 on Sunday, May 2, 2004 11:47 AM
                        Mike,

                        Thanks for the kind words sir. Hey I saw your in-progress photos of your Skyraider...looking good. Please grace us with some pics here of your finished bird. I think it would be a good pictorial example of what the Omni can do!

                        "Clear to taxi"
                        Italeri Mirage 2000C 1/72nd scale
                        Photography by:Greg Williams
                        Greg Williams Owner/ Manager Modern Hobbies LLC Indianapolis, IN. IPMS #44084
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 2, 2004 1:04 AM
                        Thanks Greg.

                        Coming from you I consider that an honor. Wink [;)]

                        I agree with you that the Omni is the best airbrush money can buy in it's price range. The Anthem is also a great buy but it is a siphon-feed model.
                        The Iwata is a sweet airbrush no doubt but I cannot justify the price as I do not think the differences in it are worth that much more money.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        plasticmod992
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                        • From: The Hoosier State
                        Posted by plasticmod992 on Sunday, May 2, 2004 12:55 AM
                        MikeV,

                        I thought your report was pretty fair and on par with repsect to the performance of the Badger/ Omni line. No offense taken here...since I bought my Omni 6000 a while back I have to say that having compaired the two models...the Omni was a better buy, hands down. I still love the Iwata brushes, but these days my Omni-6000 has replaced 5 airbrushes and is getting plenty of work; leaving the HP-C for all but the finest detail work.
                        Greg Williams Owner/ Manager Modern Hobbies LLC Indianapolis, IN. IPMS #44084
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 30, 2004 9:11 AM
                        Big Tango salty.
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Friday, April 30, 2004 7:01 AM
                        Jenni Nissila <jennin@medea-artool.com>

                        sig, the above person is the one who contacted when i sent an email to iwata. if that doesnt work, go to this page and look about halfway down the page and to the left and you'll see an icon "submit email", click on that and you all set. http://www.arttalk.com/iwata/. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 30, 2004 12:43 AM
                        Hey salt, what is the e-mail of Iwata cutomer service?
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:04 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

                        QUOTE: Hey mike, if you dont like the iwata, you can ALWAYS give/sell/pawn/trade it with me...

                        oh Lord....he's done jumped the fence again!! and the wind blows to and fro. later.Clown [:o)]Big Smile [:D]


                        You beat me to it Salt!
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:00 PM
                        Thanks Chris.

                        That's exactly what I was thinking. Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:14 PM
                        QUOTE: Of course it would add to the value of the HP-CS in case I want to sell it for a better airbrush.

                        hardy......har.........har mike.......hardy......har........har. i made a home-made preset handle for my hp-c and used for one or 2 sessions and havent used it since. i personally think its a waste of money for a modeller. it too restrictive if you ask me. say you want to clear a clog, you'd have to unscrew to let some slack in the handle, clear the clog, then re-adjust the setting on the preset handle back to where you had it. factory preset handles may operate different from the one i made though. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:50 PM
                        like a badger
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:41 PM
                        Do any of you have the preset handle on your HP-C or HP-CS?
                        My buddy Chuck has a brand-new one that he doesn't need and he said he would trade me for my stock Eclipse cutaway handle. It is a $33 handle but I don't know if I would really use it that much. Confused [%-)]
                        Of course it would add to the value of the HP-CS in case I want to sell it for a better airbrush. Laugh [(-D] Mischief [:-,]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:50 PM
                        QUOTE: Hey mike, if you dont like the iwata, you can ALWAYS give/sell/pawn/trade it with me...

                        oh Lord....he's done jumped the fence again!! and the wind blows to and fro. later.Clown [:o)]Big Smile [:D]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:46 PM
                        Hey mike, if you dont like the iwata, you can ALWAYS give/sell/pawn/trade it with me...
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:28 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

                        QUOTE: Now I have two airbrushes, love both of em and wouldn't part with either one.

                        now leave me alone mike!!

                        Wink [;)]


                        I was just curious. Tongue [:P] Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:35 AM
                        QUOTE: Now I have two airbrushes, love both of em and wouldn't part with either one.

                        now leave me alone mike!!

                        Wink [;)]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:05 AM
                        I know where you're comin from Salty. I had a HP-CS and I could have lived with just that one airbrush to do everything I wanted with ease but I decided to get a HP-CR Revolution as well. To be completely honest the real reason I bought it was just because I wanted to see first hand if metallic paints spray better through that .5mm nozzle and sure enough they do. Now I have two airbrushes, love both of em and wouldn't part with either one.

                        Cheers...Snowy
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                        roosterfish
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                          November 2003
                        • From: Stockton CA USA
                        Posted by roosterfish on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:08 AM
                        See? I was right, it was a set up. Big Smile [:D] But MikeV bought the Iwata for $30 so isn't that half of the price of a T&C? Now Mike can sell the Iwata back on Ebay and go back to the Badgers-but tell everyone he used the Iwatas and they stunk. Black Eye [B)]Dead [xx(]Smile [:)]
                        Winners never quit; quitters never win.
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:23 PM
                        never can tell mike. i have a cabinet shop ya know!! why do you keep askin' mike, your gonna get the same answer my friend. i just like to play with airbrushes brother!! Big Smile [:D] just to have it man. i like to see first hand what the differences are. i may be able to get a tighter line with less thinning which covers better. future may go through the larger needle better. i just plain want one to play with. you have more than one airbrush right? why spend more money on another airbrush if the one you had was doing just fine. i know some of yours were given to you, but didnt you buy more than one? why? you know how it goes my friend, i really cant explain it. i dont buy airbrushes for my hobby alone, i like to play with and experiment and things. Wink [;)] i would be fine with what i have but my curiosity wont rest until i try it for myself. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:42 PM
                        Chris,

                        Why waste the money on a .5mm tip when you have no real need for it? Confused [%-)]
                        Are you planning on spraying house latex through your airbrush or something? Laugh [(-D]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
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                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:58 PM
                        hey rick, i just emailed iwata customer service a couple of days ago to question them as to whether i could use the hp-bcs .5mm n/n in the hp-cs. they said yes that i could buy the nozzle cap, needle, and nozzle and convert my hp-cs to a revolution for around $21 from dixieart. so, instead of paying for the whole hp-cr, i'm gonna just order the 3 part conversion so i can swap between the 2. when it gets here, i'll have the .3mm, .35mm, .4mm, and .5mm n/n combos so that should cover all my needs(or wants more like it). i said all that to say this, i wonder if you could get the .35mm n/n to work in your revolution? that would be cool. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:55 PM

                        Like salty dog, not a dissapointment to me. I went from an aztek to a hp-cs and it's from rags to riches. I'm extremely happy with it. The price is a little high, but you got the best deal here mike! 30 bucks! I think you got some good quality for that money.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:17 PM
                        spend the extra money on another a/b or a compressor
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:47 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by plum1030


                        The price of Iwatas has gotten out of hand. When I bought mine it was nowhere near the $105 that is is now. Probably because of the weak dollar and not price gouging.


                        I wonder if the popularity of them has made the price rise also? It's hard to say.

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod
                        Thanks for the report. I'm still learning with my Iwata HP-CR after years with my Paasche H, but I like it more all the time. Not sure the HP-CS would be a lot better than the Revolution, especially for the $ difference.


                        I would agree Rick. You know, when it comes down to it most of the airbrushes we use can spray freehand camo on 1/72 scale aircraft, which is about as much as most modelers will ever need an airbrush to do. There are many that are good enough for this hobby that cost $65 and less to fit that bill, but then again everyone has their own opinion on what they like and some want to spend upwards of $200 on an Iwata. Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:41 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

                        hey 1337, does your mind change with the wind my friend?Big Smile [:D] or, are you just trying to buddy up with old badger dog mikeV?Tongue [:P] he aint gonna take you to arizona bubba!! he's takin' his wife!!Wink [;)] just hackin' on ya my friend. later.


                        Haha Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

                        You are hilarious Chris. Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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