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To prime or Not to prime, What IS the answer?

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To prime or Not to prime, What IS the answer?
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 3:24 AM
OK, I have read post after post and I'm more confused now than when I started. I am using Tamiya and Gunze acrylics with an Omni 4000, building a 1/48 Hasegawa CF-18. Some say to always prime. Some say it is unnessessary if cleaned well. Some say to prime with Reefer white, others use Tamiya in the can, and still others use Krylon. I then read that priming covers the detail and they prefer not priming at all. I wonder what the majority actually do. I personally don't understand the advantage of using less smelly acrylics, if you have to prime with stinky stuff. Maybe this would be more of a poll than a question. Either way, I would be greatful for a consensus on this. I really want to make this Millenium Hornet my pride and joy!Blush [:I]
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Posted by Foster7155 on Friday, May 7, 2004 4:57 AM
The basic problem is that there is no clear-cut answer. It boils down to two factors:

1. Personal preference
2. Results

If someone doesn't prime - as I do not - and gets satisfactory results, then they're happy and will probably advise others that primer is optional.

If someone always primes and gets satisfactory results, they're happy and will probably advise others to prime their models.

My question to you would be (rhetorically) have you gotten satisfactory results in the past when using or not using primer? If the answer is yes, then just keep doing what you're doing. If not, try something new, but I wouldn't be practicing on your "pride and joy".

I know this doesn't help much, but sometimes there is no easy answer. Sad [:(]

Robert Foster

Robert Foster

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Posted by MusicCity on Friday, May 7, 2004 6:54 AM
Robert gave a good answer to your question. I'm sort of in the middle of the road, I prime some parts (or areas) and not others. I always prime resin and PE parts, but not all styrene parts.

Priming offers two advantages, IMO:
o Primer gives the final coats of paint a good surface to adhere to. Acrylics don't adhere as well as enamels or laquers, and on the outside surface of an airplane I do not want the paint pulling up while I do all the finishing work (decaling, weathering, gloss / flat coating, etc.) I don't want to even have to worry about that happening.

o Primer makes surface defects show up like a sore thumb. I can sand and sand and get a surface to the point that I think it is perfect, but after I prime it I always find areas that need a little more work.

Whether or not to prime is your choice. Those are the reasons that I choose to prime sections of my models.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by zokissima on Friday, May 7, 2004 8:23 AM
I usually don't prime, and to be honest, I don't simply because I'm too lazy.
Any PE/Metal, resin I tend to prime, especially metal figures. It's pretty much impossible for me to paint them without. However ,with the tank and aircraft kits, very few are primed. As MusicCity pointed out, priming will bring out the smallest of surface blemishes, so if you want a flawless finish, go for it.
Also, depending on colours you use, a primer coat may be very important, especially if you're using lighter shades, as the grey styrene will alter the colouration.

BY the way, if you're afraid of the primer hiding surface detail, may I suggest Tamiya fine surface primer, out of a white rattle can. It covers very well, but does not lay down a heavy coat. Great stuff!
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Posted by Jim Barton on Sunday, May 9, 2004 3:40 PM
When I use fillers, especially in areas where I've opened doors or where there are large seams, I do use primers; a light colored primer will reveal flaws that sometimes I can't either see or feel at all otherwise! I think I've done a great job, then lo and behold, the primer reveals an irregularity that has to be further corrected. Usually one, maybe two re-corrections are necessary.

Even if I don't use fillers, I like to prime large areas before painting as there might be a cosmetic flaw from the factory. But with small parts, I generally don't bother unless the plastic itself is dark-colored.

"Whaddya mean 'Who's flying the plane?!' Nobody's flying the plane!"

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 10, 2004 8:04 PM
i prime for the simple reason that i cant see if i've filled all the gaps, puttied well, and corrected all the imperfections of your average kit without 1 color covering the whole model. Putting one solid color over the whole kit highlights areas that still need work before i get into really painting.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 14, 2004 7:40 AM
I go both ways, but I do clean every model (grilled Jr. on this also). By clean I mean soap and water (warm), and let it air-dry. Metal figurines/parts I use SImple Green, rinse, then sit.
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Posted by f_baquiran on Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:56 PM
Well Music City gave the good reasons why prime. I myself don't prime unless the model is molded in dark color plastic and I have to paint it a light color especially white or light gray enamels.
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Posted by f_baquiran on Saturday, May 15, 2004 1:58 PM
I forgot. Regarding wether priming will hide small details use an airbrush so that only a thin layer is applied. I don't use aerosol cans because the paint tend to be a little thick which may hide details.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 16, 2004 2:07 AM
Well I finally took the plunge and used a light coat of Tamiya primer. So far so good.
But whew, what a stink!Dead [xx(]
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Posted by albert_sy2 on Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:32 AM
It depends on the model plastic, I think. The Academy models I've assembled are easier to paint because the plastic is not too smooth. Hasegawa plastic is a lot smoother and doesn't give paint a lot to bite with (yes, I always wash the parts to remove teh molding grease), so it's harder to paint. I suppose you can use some 2000-grit sandpaper on smooth plastic... Oh, in case you're wondering, I only brushpaint.
Groovy baby
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Posted by qmiester on Sunday, May 16, 2004 9:21 AM
Back when I was into figures, I primed everything. And when acrylics first came out I discovered that you had to either lightly sand the entire model or apply a coat of primer cause the paint would just puddle like rain on a freshly waxed car. Now adays I only prime if I do some major alterations and/or puttying. Does two things for me - lets me see any errors I have missed and serves to fill the putty. (putty will some time soak up the paint when applied causing that area to look different than the surrounding plastic)

When I do prime, I use a good automotive primer - usually in light grey.
Quincy
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