Comparing apples to apples with airbrushes

MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Comparing apples to apples with airbrushes

Posted by MikeV on Saturday, May 8, 2004 6:31 PM

It seems that a lot of unfair comparisons between Iwata and Badger gravity-feed airbrushes have been posted on this forum lately and I would like to clear it up a bit if I could.
Sometimes the Omni 4000 has been compared to the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and I think that is a fair comparison, but to compare it to the Iwata HP-C is not.
So I think a fair comparison of equivelent airbrushes between these two companies should be like this:

Iwata Eclipse HP-CS -------------Badger (T&C) Omni 4000
Iwata HP-C-------------------------- Badger 100LG
Iwata Micron------------------------ Badger Sotar 20/20

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Saturday, May 8, 2004 7:08 PM

Also, the Badger 100LG should also be in comparison with the HP-CS and Omni 4000 as it is in the same price catagory although it is capable of finer atomization than either of the other two.
I have a Badger 100LG and a Sotar 20/20 coming soon so I will see how they do then. Wink [;)]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 7:44 PM

paasche h ------------ badger 200---------------iwata revolution sar
paasche vl ------------ badger 175
Badger 360------------ Omni Matrix
aztek 480 -------------- pile of s#&t (just kidding, theres no comparison)
H&s evolution--------- Iwata Hp-b
H&S colani------------- Tamiya hg trigger type
Iwata hp-sbs----------- Badger 100 sidefeed

Mike, your getting a 100 too?

My wishlist: H&S evolution Limited
H&s colani
Tamiya hg-trigger type
Iwata hp-ch
Badger 100g/sg/lg (already getting)
Tamiya HG-sf

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Saturday, May 8, 2004 7:51 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

Mike, your getting a 100 too?

Yes sir.

I don't have one and I need to be able to compare it to the others.
More toys! Big Smile [:D]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 9:25 PM

Whoa 1337, you're sure have a lot on your wishlist and pretty expensive too. BTW, how many airbrush do you already have?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 8, 2004 11:14 PM

Sig: I have an aztek 370, i sold the 220. thats it.

My wishlist pricing (all canadian $$$)
H&S evolution Limited $212
H&s colani $500 around
Tamiya hg-trigger type $105 (sigman's pricing)
Iwata hp-ch $179
Badger 100g/sg/lg (already getting) $60
Tamiya HG-sf $139

139 + 60 + 179 + 105 + 212+500 = $1907 plus shipping and taxes, prob 2.5 g's after. i should cut down... esp on the colani

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 9, 2004 12:43 AM

A slight correction to what I posted earlier.
The Iwata HP-CS is not really in the same exact catagory as the Omni 4000 because of it's tip design.
I was thinking that the HP-CS had a cone tip like the Omni has but it does not.
It has a screw in micro tip in the cone like the HP-C and Badger 100's have and they are more precise and able to spray finer than a regular drop in cone.
The Omni 4000 will of course tend to not clog near as much because of it's cone design, so it's a trade off.

I hope this was helpful Wink [;)]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Torio

Member since
December 2002
From: Cornebarrieu (near Blagnac), France

Posted by Torio on Sunday, May 9, 2004 4:27 AM

1337, the Colani is to be found a lot cheaper than 500 CAD ( ask to sigman ) . By the way, apart from the black finish ( and I concede you it is very smart looking ) Evolution limited is the same as "normal" Evolution.

Thank you all for coming José

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MusicCity

Member since
January 2004
From: USA

Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, May 9, 2004 8:11 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

paasche h ------------ badger 200---------------iwata revolution sar

I don't think comparing the Paasche H to the Badger 200 is a completely accurate comparison. The Paasche H is an external mix airbrush whereas the Badger 200 is an internal mix airbrush. Admittedly they are both single action, but from my understanding, and this is only from reading about the differences, and not from personal experience, an external mix airbrush creates a more "Coarse" pattern than an internal mix.

Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page

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MikeV

Member since
April 2003
From: Hayward, CA

Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 9, 2004 11:21 AM

Scott,

You are correct my friend. Wink [;)]

Mike

“Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 9, 2004 3:17 PM

Music, yeah, i didn't realize. but it doesnt seem likely the H is more likke the aztek 220 or 270.

MikeV: Calculated in canadian dollers.

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