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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:37 PM
Originally posted by lonerbboy
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In my experience, Alclad paints are weak as hell. if you touch it, there is a big chance that your finger prints will stick to it. and you can easily rub it off. so be careful with handeling this stuff.
I don't find this to be the case at all. I think the Alclad is the best wearing/handling metalizer around and is generally very hardwearing if applied correctly
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:29 PM
I would also stress that you should wait between coats. I've had the adcad surface crack when I've been impatient.
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I think Alclad2 Chrome is a special animal that requires TLC when handling, similar to ModelMaster Buffables. However, Alclad2 Aluminum is the most durable aluminum paint that I have ever used.
RICK
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:18 PM
What is a TLC?
i def. need help with handeling Alclad II Chrome. that thing is really sensitive. i mean, the entire chrome might not come off, but if i touch it for a split second, the reflectiveness and shine goes away slightly. and it tends to fog up real quick.
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Posted by MikeV
on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lonerbboy
What is a TLC?
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That is Tender Loving Care (TLC).
Mike
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:51 PM
If anyone has the november 2001 fsm, theres a good article on it...
anyhow, if your using chrome, use gloss black acryl that works almost all the time. or enamal.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:33 AM
That article is in the FSM Bach Issue Archive for viewing, check it out at...
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/default.aspx?c=a&id=227
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Posted by pingtang
on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:25 AM
Thanks for the help everyone. One last question, do you need to prime with gloss black if using Aluminium #101? or can you just spray it straight over the primer? (like it says on the Alclad site). I've heard some people say that you still need a gloss black undercoat.
Thanks again
-Daniel
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Airbrush Cleaning w/Alclad
The bottle says to use Alclad airbrush cleaner...does anyone have experience with using other products to clean an airbrush after pushing Alclad through it, in particular Chrome? Also, do you folks dedicate one airbrush to enamels and one to acrylics or just clean the heck out of them in between? Thanks, Rich E.
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Posted by Wingman_kz
on Thursday, February 7, 2008 11:31 PM
I use lacquer thinner for clean up. Alclad metal finishes dry very quickly. If you're using black enamel as a basecoat then choose one that will dry, sometimes Testors doesn't. Alclad recommends black enamel for chrome and black lacquer for other metal finishes. Other paints and colors will work. They will wear with handling but are tougher than Metallizers. Low pressure and build up very light coats. If you can still see the base color, shoot another coat. Too much and it's just another silver paint. Tony
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Posted by Neptune48
on Friday, February 8, 2008 4:51 PM
pingtang wrote: | Thanks for the help everyone. One last question, do you need to prime with gloss black if using Aluminium #101? or can you just spray it straight over the primer? (like it says on the Alclad site). I've heard some people say that you still need a gloss black undercoat.
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Hi, Daniel, This came up excactly two weeks ago, so I'll edit and repost my replys from then: pingtang wrote: | One last question, do you need to prime with gloss black if using Aluminium #101? or can you just spray it straight over the primer? |
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For Aluminum #101, spray right onto the primer. This seems to be one of the most prevalent bits of misinformation in this hobby at present. I've been trying off and on to get the word out with limited success. Use a gloss black undercoat for the High Shine finishes only: Chrome, Polished Aluminum, Stainless Steel and Airframe Aluminum. It says that on the Alclad II Website, though they haven't added the newer Hi-Shine colors to the list on their online instructions: http://www.alclad2.com/alclad-home.html Chris "saltydog" is absolutely correct about everything else. Surface prep is the most important part. Remember that Alcald II is a fairly hot lacquer, and prime accordingly. Note the difference on this test shot between the gloss black undercoat on the right and the Mr Surfacer undercoat on the left: [and from a later post in the same thread...] Typically I primer with Mr Surfacer 1200, and if necessary, shoot the gloss black on top of that. My favorite so far is the ModelMaster automotive black lacquer, though I've used Scalecoat II, Alclad Gloss Black Base, and even ModelMaster gloss black enamel. As long as they're cured, they all seem to work fine. The last time I did a high shine finish I used Tamiya polishing compound to rub out the MM Lacquer gloss black base before shooting Alclad Polished Aluminum. I thought it was worth the extra work: Here's a demo shot of four successive coats of chrome (right to left) over polished gloss black. With the final coat I applied a bit too much and went past the peak reflectivity produced by the black underneath. I also did a test shot over several undercoat colors to see if there was much difference. The idea was to get variantions in adjacent aircraft panels to look more realistic. The differences between colors was rather subtle, which is good, and varied with the metallic on top. I haven't decided yet if it's worth all that masking. Regards, Bruce
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