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Testors Gone Nuts

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  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Monday, May 17, 2004 7:15 AM
Mark,

How long did you wait between the Future coat and this flat coat?
If it was less than 48 hours that could be the problem.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 12:59 AM
I too haven't had any problems with the stuff. I haven't tried the gloss or the semi yet, though I have them both, but they all look the same color and consistency in the jar, and I have to double check the labels.....I always liked the ease of use, and the fact it goes from milky white to matte is cool!! I hope you can get it worked out though MonsterZero, as it took me a long time to figure out future and everyone else was talking it up......I was over here cussing it out!!! I think I finally did it though, so hopefully you can come up with a solution as well!!!
  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Oak Harbor, WA
Posted by Kolja94 on Monday, May 17, 2004 12:38 AM
not to sound insulting or condescending, but did everything underneath get a chance to cure completely? I've not had this problem, but I've heard that if you put any sort of clear over paint that has not yet completely cured it can cause clear coat fo fog or take on a milky appearance....

I've used Testors Acryl Flat for a while now with no problems....

Karl

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Monday, May 17, 2004 12:09 AM
funny, i just put 2 coats of mm acryl clear flat on the bird below and had no problems whatsoever. i thinned mine with distilled water and not alot of that. it looks more like milk in the bottle than clear coat, but mine came out fine. later.
this is the bird covered with about 5 thin coats of future.


heres the bird with 2 coats of acryl clear flat.

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  • Member since
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 16, 2004 11:36 PM
Mark,

Give the Poly Scale Acrylic flat a try as I remember Swanny saying it was good.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Chicago, USA
Posted by MonsterZero on Sunday, May 16, 2004 10:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

Mark,

Is that the stuff you tested on a piece of black wood first when you wanted something to thin it with?

Mike


Yes. The model still looks fine but the clear varnish definitely isn't clear and it lightens colors quite a bit.
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:22 PM
There was a time when I bought some Testors paint and was not sure of what they had labeled it. The color was wrong on two different bottles and I sent them back to Testors and they resolved my problem by sending me the correct items plus. You might consider that.

Richard
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:06 PM
just try a little thinner, and a little future. won't hurt...
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:25 PM
Mark,

Is that the stuff you tested on a piece of black wood first when you wanted something to thin it with?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
  • Member since
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  • From: Chicago, USA
Posted by MonsterZero on Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:28 PM
No, Testors does not make flat agent; I know what you are talking about; I have seen the flat agent from Tamiya. Testors has nothing of the kind in their "Acryl" brand.

The instructions for the Testors substance call for "thinning with their special thinner" if needed.
  • Member since
    January 2003
Posted by shermanfreak on Sunday, May 16, 2004 5:05 PM
By the sounds of things what you have there is a Flat Agent. It is mixed with gloss and semi-gloss paints to create a flat paint. You can also mix it with Future to create a dull cote. It's not meant to be used directly.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Chicago, USA
Testors Gone Nuts
Posted by MonsterZero on Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:56 PM
When I spotted this bottle of "flat clear" in their Akryl (acrylic) section at the hobby story I knew something is fishy. This stuff is white, not clear. White as a tacy glue, you can't see through it. "Advanced chemistry"- I thought. It looks white in the bottle but dries clear like that tacky glue.

Well, it doesn't and I tried it straight from the bottle and thinned with 80% thinner.

This stuff covers your model with a subtle (but very obvious) white residue. In fact, my T34 tank which is supposed to be green, is looking more grey right now.

There must have been some kind of misunderstanding. The finish is the flattest I have ever seen; it's dead flat. Nevertheless, flat clear is supposed to be flat clear.
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