Question about paint retarders

I don't know how much difference there is in retarders. Maybe some, maybe none. I've only been using it a couple of months.

I use Createx but just because it's the first one I grabbed at the art supply store. It was around $5 for a bottle of about 6 ounces. Since I only use a couple of drops at a time I figure it will last a couple of lifetimes.

It works real well. It doesn't eliminate dry tip, but it really helps a lot. Where I've noticed the biggest difference is in using it for brush painting acrylics. I don't brush paint much, but I used to have a terrible time trying to brush acrylics. Adding a couple of drops of retarder to about 8 drops of paint and it doesn't dry up nearly as quickly.

And I agree that Mike's elixer is great. I also love the new name!

Ehhh, sorry to ask that question here but since it's about retarder to, i'll ask it here. Hope you don't mind. MusicCity, you've mentioned Createx retarder. Do you use it with model's paint like Model Master? And what is exactly the green in Mike's elixer?
Sorry again...

Spawney

Mike's Elixer?

Actually that is the exact ingredients that were in a commercially sold airbrush cleaner that Pacific Airbrush used to sell from their Anaheim store years ago before they went out of business.

The "Green" in it is Simple Green:
http://www.simplegreen.com/index2.html

Mike

Thanks Mike. I know it was a stupid question, but I live in Quebec, Canada and I d'ont think we have that stuff over here. Do you know some product that I could use instead.

Spawney

That wasn't a stupid question my friend as I know it is not a product sold everywhere. I didn't see Canada listed on their web site so I will have to see what product is similar to that. If we knew the ingredients then maybe Gip (Styrene) could tell us something similar.
I'll ask my buddy who told me about this mixture as he may know of something else similar that you could substitute it with.

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by spawney Ehhh, sorry to ask that question here but since it's about retarder to, i'll ask it here. Hope you don't mind. MusicCity, you've mentioned Createx retarder. Do you use it with model's paint like Model Master?

Yes, I use it with Model Master paints, but only their Acryl line of acrylics obviously. I've also used it with Tamiya and Citadel paints without any problems. Haven't tried it with other brands, but tomorrow I should know if it works OK with PolyScale since I'm planning on spraying some tonight.

Mike, I just had a look at the "Where to Buy" page on the Simple Green web site and saw "Canadian Tire" listed there. Do you have such stores in the US?

Spawney

You can pretty much buy it here everywhere. It is in gas stations, supermarkets, auto parts store, Dept. Stores and some tire shops.

Spawney,

You can get Simple Green at Crappy Tire here in Canada, I got some yesterday...

Spawney,

If you can't find Simple Green then try this that my friend told me:

"Any good floor or wall cleaning liquid soap will work. Dish soap foams up too much with suds otherwise it would work. The simple green does not foam up very much so it works well with the window cleaner and water. The "pine" type cleaners always seem to work well for this, but they smell pretty strong."

Mike

Excellent. Thanks for the help guys. "Crappy Tire" , I suppose it's mean Canadian Tire...

Spawney