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Help with compressor choice...please
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:02 PM
I am looking to purchase a compressor & airbrush.
I have many? years (20+ on & off) of modeling under my belt.
I currently have a Badger 200 - bottom fed - I am looking to replace/supplement this too.
Here are my narrowed down, compressor, choices :
Iwata Power Jet
Createx Stealth 5000
Silent Aire Super Silent 20-A
Silent Aire Scorpion II TT

Airbrush wise, I am looking at :
Iwata Eclipse HP-CS
Omni 4000

Help me decide......
Any opinions/recommendations will be welcomed.
This is a great board.

Richard


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:50 PM
welcome to the forums!I say get any of those compressors, I personally like the iwata because... well.... its iwata. same with the airbrush. Omni's are also nice, at less price (hey that rhymes) and thank you for the compliment
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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 8:30 PM
i have the hp-cs and love it!! i also have an omni 5000 that i loved but started having trouble with it and didnt feel like going through the hassle of figuring it out and bought the hp-c and hp-cs. the iwata hp-cs is a very nice brush if you have the budget for one. if you dont, the hp-cr will get you by. as for compressor's, the extra cash you pay for a hobby type compressor is rediculous in my opinion. i would check out sears or home depot or something for a minimum 2hp with a 5 or so gallon tank for around 120 bucks and it will do all you need and more. unless ofcourse you need a silent one. i parked my compressor out under the carport and ran a hose to my hobby room. the hose enters the house where is attaches to a moisture trap/regulator which attaches to a psi gauge which attaches to another moisture trap and to my brush. it works and i just barely hear the drone of the compressor as i spray. later.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 8:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AmStaff

IHere are my narrowed down, compressor, choices :
Iwata Power Jet
Createx Stealth 5000
Silent Aire Super Silent 20-A
Silent Aire Scorpion II TT


The Silentaire 20A is the best hands down in that group, although it is also the most expensive.
I agree with Chris in that unless you need a silent compressor then an industrial type is the best way to go. You can even get one with a big tank and fill it up and then shut it off and have enough reserve to easily paint most models.

QUOTE: Airbrush wise, I am looking at :
Iwata Eclipse HP-CS
Omni 4000


There are fans of both of those airbrushes and you have to decide which to buy.
I personally see no advantage to the Iwata and it is 50% more money.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by lizardqing on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:15 PM
I agree about the industrial. I have a Husky Quiet Air and it is great. Not to loud really and I can pump up a car tire if I need to. And it cost less than $100 too. Only way that made sense to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:23 PM
I just recently found an old medical machine that I had to use a while back that is also an air compressor. Its extremely quiet, you may want to check out a medical supply house to see if they sell them but I have no clue how much they go for.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:39 PM
I just set up my Omni 4000 today and did some playing around with it (first time I've ever used an airbrush) and it works beautifully. Even for a newbie like me I can really get some great results. Works very nicely...my only complaint is that the action for releasing color could be a little smoother...sometimes it sticks a little. If I knew more about airbrushing I could probably fix it or figure out the problem though.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:44 AM
Is Badger 175 airbrush any good?
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bbaerst

I just set up my Omni 4000 today and did some playing around with it (first time I've ever used an airbrush) and it works beautifully. Even for a newbie like me I can really get some great results. Works very nicely...my only complaint is that the action for releasing color could be a little smoother...sometimes it sticks a little. If I knew more about airbrushing I could probably fix it or figure out the problem though.

The Omnis are great airbrushes. I have a 3000 and may get a 4000 soon as I'd like to have a gravity feed brush.

The operation will smooth out as it is used some, but you can also get some airbrush lubricant and use it on the needle and the link behind the trigger and that will smooth it up quite a bit.

QUOTE: Is Badger 175 airbrush any good?

If it does what you want it's a great airbrush! MikeV will certainly be familiar with it. I haven't used one personally, but since it's a double action brush and a Badger it has to be good Smile [:)]
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:46 PM
QUOTE: Works very nicely...my only complaint is that the action for releasing color could be a little smoother...sometimes it sticks a little


yes, do as scott (musiccity) says and use some airbrush lubricant. you can also adjust the spring tension on the trigger by taking the handle off and unscrewing the spring adjuster (part # T612 on you schematic page) to soften the feel of the trigger a bit. i unscrew mine all the way back til its about to touch the needle chuck (part # T616). that will be a personalized adjustment so you'll have to play with it. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:25 PM
Scott is right.
My Omni 4000 was a little stiff at first also and I think it is probably the Calrez needle bearing that you feel. Some lube will make it much nicer.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:34 PM
QUOTE: [i]you can also adjust the spring tension on the trigger by taking the handle off and unscrewing the spring adjuster (part # T612 on you schematic page) to soften the feel of the trigger a bit.

Doh! I forgot about the tension spring Ashamed [*^_^*]
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:12 PM
Hey caseyn5, I use a medical compressor. the psi is rather high, like 35 or so, so you need a regulator, but the goo news is that it is the standard 1/4 unc thread.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 11, 2004 7:38 PM
Thanks for the informative replies.
Maybe the 'commercial' compressor is the way to go. I do like the quiet of a 'hobby' compressor, though.

I'll let you know what I decide.

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