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the cs and bs are the same, aside from cup size. and knowing how many people recommend the cs, i say its good

tweety1, i own the hp-c and the hp-cs. between these 2 brushes i have the .3mm, .35mm, .4mm, and .5mm n/n (and i've used the omni 5000 extensively too)combos from the iwata line. if i were in the market for an awesome all around airbrush and knew what i know now, i would purchase the iwata hp-cs without blinking an eye friend!!! i dont care what people may say about this post, because they want be able to convince me otherwise, i know from hands on experience, the hp-cs sprays paint with better atomization and with less trouble than any other brush ive used since ive been modelling period. that would be the brush i would pick. some may say the hp-cr will do just fine, and i say this without ever laying a hand on an hp-cr, but you cant do as fine a work with the .5mm n/n as you can with the .35mm n/n combo. i've sprayed with both n/n combo's and the .35mm will walk circles around the .5mm. yes, you can do some nice crisp work with the .5mm, but its all relative to what you call fine work!! i can do very subtle weathering with the .35mm or i can do a nice, even, consistant broad coverage for say laying down future, primers, or alclad metal finishes. the .5mm will be a little better for broad coverage than the .35mm, but the .35mm will cover all the bases all in one fine quality brush. no one will ever convince me that for saltydog, the hp-cs is king of the workbench!! now, the next person surely will not agree with me so standby for a very diverse thread because the hp-cs is certainly not the favorite for everyone. later.

ps. both of us have seen the omni at work huh? coincedence? i think not!

Well, the next person would be me

Unfortunately, not to bust your bubble Chris, I'm not going to try and change your mind. I know the problems Sean has had with his Omni and I know how you feel about Iwatas. Personally I like the Omnis and now have two of them, a 3k and 4k. The 4k is new and I used it a lot over the weekend. Not painting fine lines, but general painting. I had no tip-dry problems at all, in fact it behaved better than my 3000 does.

Sean, I'm sorry you have problems with your Omni. I wish I knew what to tell you, but I don't have a clue. You've tried everything I'd try and shown remarkable patience throughout the ordeal. I hope the Iwatas work out for you.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog ps. both of us have seen the omni at work huh? coincedence? i think not!

Would you like to put your money where your mouth is?
I find it odd that I have never had a problem with any of my Omni's.

Mike

Sean: I own an Eclipse BCS and have found it to be outstanding. I also use acrylics and this airbrush is excellent for spraying them. The Eclipse is also easy to clean and maintain. The Eclipse, in my humble opinion, is the best all around airbrush there is for modelers.

Mike McShea

QUOTE: Would you like to put your money where your mouth is?

i already have mike!! i bought 2 iwatas!!


scott, my friend, i hope the omni's that you have never give a minutes trouble. i hope you find complete airbrush utopia with you omni's. i'm very happy with my choices, and want everbody who purchases an airbrush wether it be an aztec, paacshe, badger, omni, or iwata to be happy with there choice. i never, ever want to comprimise my the integrity of a friendship over the brand airbrush that someone chooses. you don't have to worry about busting my bubble friend, it comes with the territory when you post in these kinds of threads!! kinda like a die hard ford fan and a die hard chevy fan, you can convince niether side to budge because they've had good experiences with their vehicle and passed the opponent on the side of the road broke down. just the way it is i guess. happy airbrushing my friend. as for mikeV, we just like to bust on each other a time or 2 now and again!! its kinda fun, and is done all in fun. later boys.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog QUOTE: Would you like to put your money where your mouth is? i already have mike!! i bought 2 iwatas!!

I said "money" not "too much money"

QUOTE: as for mikeV, we just like to bust on each other a time or 2 now and again!! its kinda fun, and is done all in fun. later boys.

That is exactly right my friend. It is all in fun.

Mike

QUOTE: I said "money" not "too much money

i definately went the long way around..........but i'm happy brother!!!

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog QUOTE: I said "money" not "too much money i definately went the long way around..........but i'm happy brother!!!

And that Chris is all that matters my friend!

Keep up the nice builds brother. You know that German model you just finished looked so good that I have been trying to get in more time on my models.

Mike

Sean, I agree with Salty, I have both the HP-CS and HP-CR and the CS is probably your best bet. With the .35mm nozzle it's great for detail work as well as general coverage. I really only use the CR for spraying metallics which I think it handles better than the CS because it has a .5mm nozzle. You can get a .5mm N/N combo for the CS to swap in and out as optional parts so then you would have the best of both worlds if metallics give you a hard time. I reckon if you go with the CS you will be very happy mate.

Cheers...Snowy

well, i appreciate that mike, i really do. i'm so proud to walk into my office/hobby room and actually have 2 finished shelf sitters to look at. you don't know how bad i needed something to be finished. it seems that when you get a project finished and are satisfied with its appearance, it just makes you all the more motivated to get another one finished!! i guess thats the beauty of this hobby. 98% of the time i really enjoy it!!

i'm trying to be patient and i check the a/c forum for your finished build, but day after day i get let down!!.. i'm looking forward to checking you and your omni finish out. later.

Kodus for the Iwata Hp-CS! For camo, I use the HP-C and for general spraying I use the Revolution HP-CR. I have given my CS a rest for a bit after learning to use our hobby enamels with the HP-C. I simply thinned the enamels a little more, approx 1:1 and lowering the psi. I can now get excellent muti-color camo schemes for my 1/72nd scale jets. As far as recommendations go, I've found that the afore mentioned CS, BS, CR, BCS, and HP-C are great choices for use with our hobby enamels and some acrylics. I say some, because I've only had good luck with Tamiya and Gunze. Happy modeling!

My 1/72nd scale Corsair was painted with the HP-C airbrush.

Thanks for your replies people.
And your right Chris, about the Omni thing.

I'm sure Mike V has not had any trouble with his brushes, and good luck to him I say.

But you can't manufacture something and not have a few that are not quite right, it's just not possible.
I have had a bad experience with my Omni, and unfortunately I'm a 'Once bitten, twice shy" kinda guy. Hence the Iwata query.

Besides, I personally feel there has been far too much brand bashing on this forum already.

Anyhoo, it appears most have had a good experience with the HP-CS, so it looks like the one to have a closer look at.
Thanks again guys.

Sean

sounds good tweety1, and let us know when it arrives friend. get you camera warmed up so we can see some results. later.

Remember the accurate miniatures group build? I painted my p51c (not yet posted) with a BRUSH in BARE METAL

QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337 Remember the accurate miniatures group build? I painted my p51c (not yet posted) with a BRUSH in BARE METAL

I thought that brushes were made of animal hair, not of bare metal, but I can be wrong.

hahaha torio, but i painted it bare metal finish with a brush

1337, why didn't you use an AB ? Post some pics.

Tweety,

I recently upgraded from a Paasche VL to the Iwata Hp-CS and the revolution bcr. Talk about night and day. I love working with both but the CS is incredible. I like having 2 AB's one being gravity and the other syphon. Makes life easier and it also helps that I have 2 hose ports on my compressor so i can shoot both brushes with out changing hoses. Also there has been alot of talk about the prices of the Iwata AB's. I paid 129.00 for my CS and 71.00 for my BCR. To me they were well worth it.

rjk: Because that was when my aztek "airbrush" crapped out and i sold the other one

note i forgot the anti-glare panel, i put it in after. the prop blades look better in real life, and the antenee snapped

QUOTE: Originally posted by plasticmod992 Kodus for the Iwata Hp-CS! For camo, I use the HP-C and for general spraying I use the Revolution HP-CR.

Greg,

I thought that a while back you had bought an Omni 6000 and that you liked it so much that you were considering selling your Iwatas? Was that you or am I mistaken?

Mike

and I wanted to buy the HP-C!!! I still do, you accept paypal? try my new email, k3wl@imaterrorist.com