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Question about Gunze Sangyo Mr. Surfacer

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    November 2005
Question about Gunze Sangyo Mr. Surfacer
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 28, 2004 11:40 PM
Hi folks,

I've been hearing good things about this stuff used as a primer(?) so I thought next time I went to the LHS I'm gonna get myself a bottle (have been using any light gray enamel as primer). But when I saw it I was surprised to find at least three variants: Mr. Surfacer 500, 1000, and 1200. Now since all the text except the product name is in Japanese (don't you find that strange? Clown [:o)]), I can't make heads or tails what each one is for. Can somebody please explain what each variant does? Also, please include usage instructions as well as cautionary warnings I should be aware of regarding its use. I opened one, the 1000, and it seems to have the same consistency as Mr. Color paints, so I assume it is lacquer-based. Well, any info will help.

Regards,
Onyan
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:07 AM
Hi onyan,

The Mr Surfacer numbers refer to the grain size in the product, 500 being the coarsest and 1200 being the finest.

Due to the differing grain size of each variant their usage depends on your need, scale etc. For instance I use Mr surfacer 1000 as a primer and Mr surfacer 500 as a seam or gap filler. When using it I always thin with Mr Colour Thinner.

Cheers
Darren
  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:37 AM
As Darren said onyan.

Personally I don't like the idea of using it as a primer, I like to sand out the small blemishes after a normal primer has been used.

I'm kinda funny that way, it's an old school habit.

But Mr Surfacer is excellent for filling the defects in the 2 areas I hate most.

Canopy seams and wing roots.
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  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:17 PM
There was some discussion about this over on ARC. One poster suggested that the difference between them is just the consistency. He believes that they are all the same 'grain' or particle size, and the higher numbers (1200/1500) are just 'thinner' than the others. His suggestion was to buy the 500, and thin it down to whatever consistency you needed - this way you got the most product for your $.

Personally, I have used the 1000 as a primer, and it worked very well. You have to thin it with lacquer thinner, and it needs to be thinned quite a bit. If you don't, you'll get the dreaded spider-web effect as it shoots out of your airbrush. The thinner evaporates quite quickly, so don't let it sit in your AB too long...

Take it for what it's worth....

Murray
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:57 PM
Darren, tweety1, and Murray, I appreciate very much all your feedback. I was totally in the dark about this product and I can't seem to find Gunze Sangyo's official website. On second thought, maybe if I did, it'll still be in Japanese! Laugh [(-D] Anyway, I'll be testing it as a primer -- thinned, of course -- on a scrap sheet and see how it does. Thanks a lot to you all!

Regards,
Onyan
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