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Calling Mike V re: airbrush

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:48 PM
Hi Mike,

What's the difference between the OMNI 4000G and the 6000S? I'm thinking of purchasing the 4000G but the 6000S looks intriguing. Is it worth it to spend the extra 20.00 bucks?

Thanks for the help and regards.

Manny
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:40 PM
They are similar in overall performance.
The 6000 is a side-feed which is actually a siphon-feed design and some people like them. I personally have never used a side-feed airbrush and don't think I would really like it as it would feel odd with the color cup off to the side when all I have ever used are gravity-feed models and siphon-feeds with the bottle on the bottom.
Either one will be fine for you so the choice is yours.
The Omni 4000 may be slightly easier to clean because the color cup is mounted to the airbrush, but the cleaning time is not that great of a difference.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:21 PM
and you can drop the pressure lower on a gravity fed brush so you get less over spray.
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:25 PM
That is true Jeff but I don't know if the 4000 would spray at a lower pressure than the 6000, as the side-feed of the 6000 is fed much easier than a bottle underneath. That would make an interesting experiment. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:20 PM
you should try it Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:21 PM
wait I have the 4000g as in gravity fed. Now I am confused
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:28 PM
me too jeff!!!Confused [%-)]

oh, i think i get now, mike is saying the the 6000 and 4000 would probably spray the same as the side feed is close to a gravity feed. the first time i read it, it did thow me for a loop cause it sounded like he was referring to the 4000 as a siphon feed. later.Wink [;)]
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

me too jeff!!!Confused [%-)]

oh, i think i get now, mike is saying the the 6000 and 4000 would probably spray the same as the side feed is close to a gravity feed. the first time i read it, it did thow me for a loop cause it sounded like he was referring to the 4000 as a siphon feed. later.Wink [;)]


Sorry if I confused you there guys. Chris said what I meant very well. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

you should try it Wink [;)]


I don't have an Omni 6000 though. Confused [%-)]
I guess I could ask Ken for one. Wink [;)]
No, I don't need another airbrush. Laugh [(-D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 1:44 AM
ummm...ok youre saying that a siphon feeds the same as a gravity??? I am still confu'd 'bout tat.

Why dont you say it again Mike...this time so us Mortals can follow ya Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 16, 2004 7:37 AM
Thanks Mike and everybody,

I'm going to spring for the 4000G........now, a suitable compressor.

Regards,
Manny
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

ummm...ok youre saying that a siphon feeds the same as a gravity??? I am still confu'd 'bout tat.

Why dont you say it again Mike...this time so us Mortals can follow ya Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]


What I meant was that although a side-feed airbrush is considered a siphon-feed, it still feeds easier than a normal siphon-feed with the bottle connected under the airbrush. The side-feed still has to siphon the paint into the airbrush, but since the cup is right there on the side it is drawn into the airbrush a little easier as it does not have to overcome gravity. So I am assuming that a side-feed will spray at lower pressures than a siphon-feed for that very reason and I would imagine that it is close to a gravity-feed in terms of being able to spray at the lowest pressures.
I could be wrong but that is my best guess. Wink [;)]
Did that make sense? Smile [:)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:37 AM
and your saying what a great company badger is mike, and all the airbrushes that Ken gave you and he didn't even send a 6000 for you to test drive!!Disapprove [V]Tongue [:P] i'd boycott if i were you!! later.Wink [;)]
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:41 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

and your saying what a great company badger is mike, and all the airbrushes that Ken gave you and he didn't even send a 6000 for you to test drive!!Disapprove [V]Tongue [:P] i'd boycott if i were you!! later.Wink [;)]


I guess Chris wants another flogging eh?

Since I have the Omni 3000, and 4000, I saw no need for the 6000 and didn't ask for one. Do me a favor and email Iwata and ask them for some samples and see what they say! Tongue [:P]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:53 AM
Laugh [(-D]Black Eye [B)]Thumbs Up [tup].......i don't need a sample mike, i got the ultimate airbrush in my stable already. all in one!!Wink [;)]
on a serious note, i would be interested in you hp-cs if you ever decide to sell it mike. i'm thinkin of purchasing another one to spray acrylic based paints with. i just can't see where cleaning out enamel paint and turning right around and shooting acrylics throught the same brush can be productive. i've done it several times, but it seems it would be easier to just have a spare brush. i would use the omni5000 but i haven't had the chance to get an adapter so it'll fit my iwata hose. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, July 16, 2004 11:00 AM
If I ever decide to sell it Chris you will be the first to know my friend. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:31 AM
OK I got it now Mike LOL. heh
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