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  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Pensacola, FL
Excellent and Inexpensive Oil Paint
Posted by Foster7155 on Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:06 PM
Greetings all,

I know that many members, particularly armor builders like myself, have stated that they use Winsor & Newton oil colors for weathering. For my latest build, I too wanted to try oil colors for weathering and for drybrushing.

Instead of Winsor & Newton, I decided to try out Max Grumbacher oil colors. Why? Well, in addition to their resonable price ($3.00 per 1.25 oz tube), they have one other outstanding characteristic. You can thin them with water!

Athough these are indeed oil colors that can be thinned using linseed oil, turpentine, or other solvents, they are also completely water-soluble. After only one use, I can say that I'm hooked.

The colors mix together prefectly and for drybrushing, they go down 100% easier than either the MM enamels or acrylics I've tried. I can't speak for putting streaks down yet (I'll try that tomorrow), but can't see there being any problems. They were dry to the touch in about six hours and after 16 hours, I had no problems top-coating my work with Dull Coat.

On top of everything else, clean-up is a breeze. Since I use a little paper plate for a pallet, that goes in the trash and after rinsing the brush in a cup of water a couple of times, I'm done.

I can highly recommend these Max Grumbacher oil colors to anyone who wants to use oils for weathering their models...particularly anyone who may be avoiding oils because of the chemicals involved. Those who use traditional oils may want to pick up a tube or two just to try them out.

I'm wondering, has anyone else has tried these paints out? If not, I hope you find this information useful.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Central USA
Posted by qmiester on Sunday, August 1, 2004 8:52 AM
Robert,

I started using Grumbacher Oil Paints and brushes years ago when I was doing figures. It was the only brand avialable in most of the hobby shops and craft stores the wife and I frequented. Once I had figured out how to use them, they did everything I wanted them to do. I eventually got some Windsor-Newton paints but I really didn't feel they were that much better (Ok - I'm probably a barbarian) for the price difference. So now if I use oil paint, I use Grumbacher (unless I need a color that Grumbacher doesn't produce - then I go with Windsor-Newton). But the one thing I hadn't tried (or even thought of) was using water for thinning and clean up. Will give it a try - thanks.
Quincy
  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Pensacola, FL
Posted by Foster7155 on Sunday, August 1, 2004 8:57 AM
Hey Q,

Before you make a mess, let me clarify. Max Grumbacher makes several different types of paints including different ranges of acrylics, water-soluble oils, and traditional (non-water soluble) oils. Water will only make a mess with the traditional oils.

Enjoy your modeling...

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Central USA
Posted by qmiester on Sunday, August 1, 2004 9:04 AM
Thanks - you probably saved me from making a fool out of myself in front of my wife (I've found I can do that very well without involving modeling !!!)
Quincy
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, August 1, 2004 10:01 AM
I prefer Winsor & Newton oils for figure painting, but have been using the Grumbacher water soluble paint for weathering aircraft. It dors work very well for that & the drying time is much less.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Posted by maddafinga on Sunday, August 1, 2004 11:17 PM
W & N make water soluable oils as well, I have several of them as well as the traditional types. I love them very much. I mostly only use the regular oils for mixing with enamels if I want to drybrush a slightly lighter base shade. Brilliant invention that water soluable oil paint!
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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