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Omni 4000 when I have an Iwata Eclipse?

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Omni 4000 when I have an Iwata Eclipse?
Posted by jdavidb on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:33 AM
I have an Iwata Eclipse HP-BS... the dbl action, gravity feed with smaller cup than the CS. My garden hose airbrush is the trusty Paashe H! I'm ok with buying one of the Omni's, but I'm wanting to ask if I already pretty much have it covered with the Iwata? I'm not interested in retiring the Iwata, of course. I'd like to be more in the realm of retiring the Paashe H.
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:35 AM
Your HP-BS and the Omni 4000 will spray very similar except the Omni 4000 will have a 1/3 oz cup which comes in handy for larger paint jobs.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:39 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I personally like the larger cup size myself, but all to his own. the only other difference in omni and the iwata (i have an omni 5000 and iwata hp-cs/hp-c) is the iwata is more comfy in MY hands. that will totally be a personal thing though. nothing to do with the spray pattern. the omni has a slightly slimer body. but, to answer your question, yes, you should have it covered for this hobby with the 2 brushes you mentioned. the most used airbrush on my bench is the hp-cs. i can do all with it, but i use the hp-c for specialty stuff cause its got a set up that i like. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by jdavidb on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:34 AM
Thanks Mikev & Chris. It's all about internal mix and trying to reduce the workload of the Eclipse. Maybe I'll get a nice, big fat 175 Crescendo to retire the Paashe.

The Paashe H has a permanent home with me though. That's one of those things where if they're gonna do it that way, they did it right :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:46 AM
the h is a good design, and should give you many years more airbrushing. Save your money for models.
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jdavidb
Maybe I'll get a nice, big fat 175 Crescendo to retire the Paashe.


Now that would be a different airbrush altogether.
It puts out much more paint than the Iwata could ever dream of doing, or any other airbrush for that matter. Big Smile [:D]
That would come in handy for those large scale aircraft and so forth. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:58 PM
if you need big paint, get a badger 400 Big Smile [:D] just kidding you're all set wit that iwata
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Posted by jdavidb on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV
Now that would be a different airbrush altogether.
It puts out much more paint than the Iwata could ever dream of doing, or any other airbrush for that matter. Big Smile [:D]
That would come in handy for those large scale aircraft and so forth. Wink [;)]

Mike


QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337
if you need big paint, get a badger 400 just kidding you're all set wit that iwata


I'll use both of those on the 1:1 scale Millenium Falcon Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Is the 155 Anthem better for 1/24 car bodies than the Iwata? I like the size of the Paashe H #3 or #5 for something the size of a 1/24 car, but I want it to be internal mix and double action. Plus, airbrushes like 155 and 175 are just all-around more awesome for the broader range of duties.

Do all of the retail Anthems come with that cool blue anodized handle? I know the pics on the Badger site show it with a chrome handle. I'm hopin' for a blue one.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jdavidb

Is the 155 Anthem better for 1/24 car bodies than the Iwata?


They would be similar in spray patterns but I think the Anthem would put out a little more paint, though I am not sure.

QUOTE:
Do all of the retail Anthems come with that cool blue anodized handle? I know the pics on the Badger site show it with a chrome handle. I'm hopin' for a blue one.


The blue handle was on the old version of the Anthem, the newer version has the chrome handle. This airbrush is the fastest airbrush made to disassemble too.
It takes 2-3 seconds to remove the needle.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:47 AM
I'm ditto with what MikeV said. I have an eclipse and since its a bottom feed, its sure needs a higher pressure compared to gravity feed to spray paint. Also, disassembly is a snap.
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Posted by jdavidb on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:40 PM
I've looked at the parts charts of the 150 and the 175. Both have 3 tip sizes to keep up with. The 150 parts chart looks like its tip (50-0391, 92 & 93) is extremely tiny compared to the 175 (41-003, 04 & 05). When it comes to keeping up with 3 tip assemblies for one brush, I think bigger is better. I haven't seen these tips in real life, so I don't know.

It shows that with the Crescendo 175, the medium tip 41-004 is the same tip as the Anthem. I wonder if the two other Crescendo head assemblies will work in an Anthem.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:26 PM
the anthem is a 1 needle 1 nozzle design, and i think it will fit, but only 1 way to find out. ask mike.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jdavidb
When it comes to keeping up with 3 tip assemblies for one brush, I think bigger is better. I haven't seen these tips in real life, so I don't know.


The medium needle and tip is all you will need for the 175 as it puts out a huge amount of paint. The large needle and tip would probably not be worth buying for modeling.

QUOTE: It shows that with the Crescendo 175, the medium tip 41-004 is the same tip as the Anthem. I wonder if the two other Crescendo head assemblies will work in an Anthem.


Head assemblies? You mean tips don't you?
I am not sure if the other tips would work as the 175 uses 3 different needles whereas the 155 has a single needle/tip combo.
I would email Ken at Badger if you need to know for sure.
kenbadger@aol.com

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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