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New Spray Booth Pics
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:42 PM
Hey!

I finally finished up my new spray booth. It's huuuuuuuuuuge and the Dayton blower moves some serious air. I can't wait to try it out. Check out the pics and let me know what you think.

http://www.craniometrics.com/docs/booth/

~ Regards
~ Garth
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:42 PM
Sorry... I hit the back button and this posted a second time.
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  • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
Posted by styrene on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:22 PM
Garth,
I haven't written in a long while, so I thought I'd jump in for the first time in about 4 months....

The booth looks really good; you must have put a lot of work into it. And I like the mount and ducting you have for the exhaust motor. It LOOKS like it has the ability to suck up women and small children.....!
Just a couple questions:
1. What is the cfm rating on the motor? It has to be able to capture AND transport vapors from the booth to the fan, and out any exhaust ducting--all of which provides resistance, and decreases duct transport velocities.
2. How big is the face area of your booth (L X W)? In order to adequately capture those vapors and pigments, air velocity at the face needs to average about 80-100 fpm.
3. Where is the exhaust ducting from the motor out the window? I hope there is going to be some, 'cause recirculating exhausted vapors is pretty much a no-no--unless they've been passed through some sort of "scrubber", like an activated charcoal filter. Just stay away from plastic dryer hose. Aluminum flex duct is still the best.

All the best,
Gip Winecoff

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:23 PM
Looks great! How much did it cost to build? Can you give me the specs? i'd like to build one too.Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:58 PM
It looks good Garth and I was wondering the same thing that Gip (styrene) asked. Smile [:)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:09 PM
Hey guys... Thanks for the comments Big Smile [:D]

The blower is rated at 488cfm. I was going to get the one that was rated at 495cfm, but decided to get one with a capacitor since I would be starting it and stopping it a lot through its life span. The booth is 2.5x2, so it should move the air out at a little under 100 fpm. I also used 6 inch duct and the distance to the exhaust point will be fairly short, so static pressure should be pretty low. I was going to do 4 inch duct, but had room for the 6 and figured it might help out.

I just ordered 2 new Alvin drawing tables for Eileen and I and I'm going to wait until those come to run the exhaust duct. There are windows on 2 whole sides of the room, so I'll have my pick... I guess it just comes down to how we are going to arrange the room before I figure out the configuration. It will definitely go out one of the windows though and shouldn't be any more than 2 feet.

I think the entire thing cost about $600 or so. It's hard to tell since I always buy a bunch of stuff when I go to the hardware store anyhow. I also built the table, so that factors into everything too. The interior dimensions are 30w x 24h x 26d.

All-in-all it was a pretty fun project... Honestly though, I'm glad it's done. We live in an apartment and it was taking up an entire room. Now, we will be sawdust free... at least for a little while Smile [:)].

~ Thanks again Y'all
~ Garth
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Posted by dubix88 on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 5:46 AM
HEY,
Came out great man, nice job. Im thinking of making one myself, but not sure.

Randy
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:01 PM
Looking good, man, great job! Can you share your parts list? I'm planning to build a similar one myself though I don't know yet what stuff I will need, down to the filters, blowers, ducts, and what else is required. So, I'm still doing research for this and would like to know how you guys build these things.

Cheers,
Onyan
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:17 AM
Hey Onyan,

I'm glad you like the booth and thanks for the compliments. Here is a rough parts list along with a little commentary of things I would have done differently.

First I bought a good blower. Mine is a Dayton from Grainger. From all of the threads I read before I made it, it seemed to be what most used.

Then I needed solid table. I just made one that was the size I wanted. It ended up being cheaper than buying one. You can buy the folding banquet table legs at most home improvement stores.

After all that was done, I needed to design what the booth was going to be constructed out of. I decided to do a wooden frame lined with sheet steel that you can get anywhere they sell duct work. The whole booth is lined with that with the exception of the plenum, which has the frame walls filled in with plywood on the front and back. Then the ply is covered with the steel on the inside of the booth. Behind the filter you see in the picks, the steel is cut out in a rectangle and there is plywood with a bunch of holes. This is the entrance into the plenum and seems to break the air up nicely. From what I have been able to tell, the distribution of air is consistent throughout the booth.

I left a space in the top of the booth for a light. Rectangle is lined with angled aluminum like a picture frame and plexiglass sits down in it to shield the light. The light is a standard 24 inch from home depot. Also, the recession the light sits in is also lined with metal for reflection around the booth.

The last few things are the ducts and plexi cover. The plexi cover can really be any sized sheet that will fit. I chose to go with 6 inch duct so the blower could perform a little better than with 4. It is attached to the wood with started flanges.

The blower is attached with 5 bolts and there is a piece of rubber in between it and the wood. I just used a piece of rubber flashing that roofers put around ventilation pipes. All of this stuff I just bought at the hardware store with the exception of the blower.

Anyhow, what I would have done differently and what I'm glad I did the way I did...

I shouldn't have spend so much time and effort shoring up the mount for the blower. In my head I thought it was going to be this big, loud thing that jerked the table around. Honestly though, I can't even tell when it is on except for the air it is moving. The blower is quieter than my Iwata compressor and doesn't vibrate at all. Much of the overkill in the booth was in preparation for that, but in the end, I shouldn't have worried about it at all.

I think that goes for about everything in the booth. Maybe I spent too much time building it TOO sturdy. Seriously, I think it the most structuarally sound thing in my apartment... Including my apartment. These are my only regrets.

On the other hand, I'm glad I built it big. I like to work on a lot of big projects and never wanted to run out of room and with this I shouldn't. Also, a good thing about mounting the blower. I removed the motor and the fan and just worked with the housing most of the time. When I was drilling the mounts, I clamped everything together and drilled through it all at the same time. This made everything line up perfectly. I would recommend that for sure.

The blower was also really easy to wire up. I just bought a cord, plug and a line switch and it took about 30 mins to wire everything up.

One of the things that I love about you guys is that you like to build. There is a real DIY attitude in the modeling community and I think that is such an awesome personality attribute. I'm glad you like the booth and can't wait to see yours when it's done.

Feel free to email me if you have any questions about any of this stuff or if you would like me to post detail pics of the construction. If any of y'all are ever in Chicago, you can come always stop by.

Anyhow, thanks again for all of the compliments and help along the way.

Oh, before I forget Onyan, here is a good tutorial about booths: http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/tutorial.asp?TutorialID=23&CurPage=1

~ Regards
~ Garth
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 12:32 AM
Hi Garth,

Thank you very much, friend, for the detailed commentary of your spray booth build, as well as the link. They will be VERY useful to me (I've already printed out your commentary). I've been itching for a long time to build a spray booth but never got beyond the planning stage Blush [:I]. Seeing your work has inspired me to gear up and tackle that project once and for all! Anyway, thanks again, and please accommodate my questions should I have them. I'll post pics once I get my website up and running.

Yes, this is a fine community as people like you are so supportive and willing to help, and with good modelling skills to boot. I've learned so much here just by reading the posts. I'm glad I joined this forum and I hope to make this my home.

Good luck to your modelling!

Cheers,
Onyan
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