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                        Badger 100 LG

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                        maddafinga
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
                        Badger 100 LG
                        Posted by maddafinga on Saturday, August 28, 2004 12:08 PM
                        What's the scoop on this brush? What sort of paints was it made for, and what other airbrushes are comparable? I wonder if this is something I might be able to use for modeling and some illustration work. Does anyone here use one, what's the skinny?
                        Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:05 PM
                        waitin for mike.. I really dont know that much about the 100
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:32 PM
                        Josh,

                        The 100LG is a really nice airbrush and would suit you perfectly for both illustration and models. I would use the medium tip and needle for modeling (that is what mine has) and then get a fine needle and tip for illustration work.
                        The medium tip and needle handles modeling paints very well but the fine set would probably cause you headaches with anything other than inks, dyes, etc.
                        The airbrush that is closest in performance to the 100LG would be the Iwata HP-C as they were designed for the same purposes.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:40 PM
                        i started to purchase one of those right after i got the omni 5000. Mike, do you know what size the medium tip measures in comparison with the hp-cs? looks like a very nice airbrush just looking at it. good luck josh. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        maddafinga
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
                        Posted by maddafinga on Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:30 PM

                        Ah, with a half hour left, the price went up out of my range. I'll keep my eye peeled for a brush that would suit my needs though. A lot of people on Ebay seem to watch something then place bids at the very very last minute to drive the price on up. Shame really, but I'll come up with something in the end. Thanks guys!
                        Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, August 28, 2004 4:02 PM
                        Chris,

                        I am not sure what the tip and needle measurements are as Badger does not advertise them as they are not really necessary.
                        The taper of the needle is what determines spray width, not the diameter of the tip and needle.

                        Josh,

                        That airbrush is not too expensive really as it is less than $70, but if you are on a tight budget that might be too much.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Saturday, August 28, 2004 4:37 PM
                        QUOTE: The taper of the needle is what determines spray width, not the diameter of the tip and needle.



                        Dunce [D)] Mikey!!!!Big Smile [:D] i already knew that friend, i was just wondering how model paint would fit through the nozzle. the reason i say this is, the hp-c i have uses the .3mm n/n combo and is very finicky when trying to fit model paints through it, but i have no problems whatsoever with the hp-cs which uses the .35mm n/n combo. i was wondering if the 100LG's n/n combo was around the same size as the hp-cs's is all. just amazing the difference that .05mm can make!! later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, August 28, 2004 4:47 PM
                        Chris,

                        From what Ken told me the fine needle and tip on the 100 series can spray model paints through them but they are problematic so he recommends the medium set for model paints. I think the fine tip and needle is probably real close to the HP-C's .3mm size.
                        I will email Ken and ask if he could tell me the size of the fine needle/tip.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        maddafinga
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
                        Posted by maddafinga on Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:11 PM
                        QUOTE: That airbrush is not too expensive really as it is less than $70, but if you are on a tight budget that might be too much.


                        There was one on Ebay for about 20 bucks or so, but with less than 30 minutes remaining, it ran up to over 40 bucks. Out of my league for a little while until I get caught back up. 70 bucks is not too bad really, I may just grab one in the next couple of months once things level out. I'll still keep my eyes peeled on Ebay for a good deal though, I thought I finally had one, but alas....
                        Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:23 PM
                        Just keep searching Josh.
                        I picked up my Iwata HP-CS on Ebay for less than that 100LG sold for so there are deals out there, especially when the person does not know or care what the value is and has a 'buy it now' price well below it's value. Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 28, 2004 9:10 PM
                        man i really need an airbrush :D
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:09 PM
                        QUOTE: man i really need an airbrush


                        man thirteen!!! you've been bumpin' yer gums for 6 months about this brush and that, and you still ain't saved the money to purchase a brush?!! take the plunge son!! later.Wink [;)]Smile [:)]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 1:41 AM
                        I know i know, I'm going to get one before summer ends. guerenteed or your money back*

                        *actually my money
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                        maddafinga
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
                        Posted by maddafinga on Sunday, August 29, 2004 1:46 PM
                        You're going to send us money?!?
                        Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 30, 2004 11:48 AM
                        i'm going to send some guy whose on fsm forums, named 1337, the money back if I dont get the airbrush or a nobs woodtek azbek
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, September 8, 2004 8:57 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog
                        Mike, do you know what size the medium tip measures in comparison with the hp-cs? looks like a very nice airbrush just looking at it.


                        Chris,

                        Sorry it took so long to get you the answer on this as I just heard back from Ken about it.
                        I told Ken that someone on the forum wondered if the fine tip and needle are about the same as the .3mm of the Iwata HP-C needle/tip and he sent me this:

                        QUOTE: The medium tolerance on the inside diameter of the badger paint tip forward opening is smaller than .3mm. However the needle tip angle is larger.

                        On the SOTAR the inside diameter of the paint tip forward opening is also smaller than .3mm. And the needle tip angle is smaller.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 10, 2004 11:32 PM
                        I have a Badger 100G (smaller paint cup) and have really come to like it alot. I *think* it has the fine needle/nozzle combination (how do I tell anyways) and MikeV is right. Enamels will go through the prush IF they're thinned out quite a bit. Acrylics didn't really work very well.

                        I'm going to see if I can find a medium needle/nozzle set and try it out.

                        Murray
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                        maddafinga
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
                        Posted by maddafinga on Friday, September 10, 2004 11:43 PM
                        I think this is the brush I may end up with. I think that the combo of price and quality, along with the fact that I can get the med nozzle for modeling and the fine for illustration make it the way to go. It'll probably be a while, but this seems to be the direction I'm headed now. I already have an Iwata, so there'll be balance on the bench then.
                        Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Friday, September 10, 2004 11:53 PM
                        sounds cool mike!! thanks for being johnny on the spot!! i'm thinkin' of having an airbrush sale o thon!!LOL i would love to sale the omni 5000 (or if mike would like to trade me the hp-cs, that would be cool too!!Wink [;)]) the hp-c, the badger 200G, and the Paashe H, then, buy me another hp-cs for acrylics, future, and flat coats. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Friday, September 10, 2004 11:56 PM
                        BTW, Josh, does the hp-cr use a regular tip, or a micro tip? i know its a .5mm nozzle, but i was wondering if it had the micro tip too? later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        maddafinga
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
                        Posted by maddafinga on Saturday, September 11, 2004 10:51 AM
                        I'll bet it's the micro tip. The tip to the CR is not the same as I've seen in the diagrams of the Eclipse. I don't know that for sure, as I've only got the one brush, but that's my best guess. It's a small one piece tip , maybe 2 mm long, with flat areas on the sides so that you can tighten it. The pics of the eclipse tips I've seen seem to have a much longer, almost tear drop shaped tip, I can't verify this, I'm just using my best recollection. If you were going to sell some of your stuff, what would you have to get rid of?
                        Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:51 PM
                        josh, after a little research of my own, the hp-cr does use a micro tip, as does the hp-cs and 100LG. as for what i'd get rid of, the list is 3 posts above. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:10 PM
                        hey salty, more = better. gimme an email Bbq.of.DooM@gmail.com [same msn]
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