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  • Member since
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  • From: Where the coyote howl, NH
Minimal fume lacquer spray
Posted by djrost_2000 on Saturday, September 4, 2004 10:24 PM
I can't open a window to spray lacquer in the colder months. I'm looking for a lacqeur overcoat or any kind of overcoat that I can spray on an acrylic paintjob (ie. won't make an acrylic paintjob run), and that doesn't create much fumes.
Are there any relatively fume-free flat overcoats that I can spray on an acrylic paintjob?

Thank you,

Dave
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    March 2004
  • From: British Columbia,Canada
Posted by bstrump on Saturday, September 4, 2004 10:31 PM
You'd have to use an acrylic flat overcoat as they're relatively fume free, the key word being relative. All paints give off nasty fumes so you should think about getting a spray booth with a fan if you want to spray indoors. Hope this helps.Smile [:)]
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, September 4, 2004 11:05 PM
I agree with bstrump.
Get some Polly Scale clear flat and wear a paper respirator. Thumbs Up [tup]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, September 5, 2004 7:06 AM
Like they said ... all paint fumes are uhealthy to breathe. Acrylics are just not as bad.

I haven't used PolyScale flat clear, but I've heard good things about it. I have used ModelMaster Acryl flat clear and it works fine. Also Tamiya XF-21 Flat Base mixed with Future. All three of these are acrylic.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by styrene on Sunday, September 5, 2004 7:42 PM
OK, guys.....
It's proper terminology time!Smile [:)] Paint does NOT generate fumes. It generates vapors. Fumes are condensed particulates that come primarily from operations like welding. Vapors are gases that have a liquid from which they evaporate.

QUOTE: Get some Polly Scale clear flat and wear a paper respirator


The paper respirator will protect against paint particulates (pigment), but won't offer any protection against the vapor fraction. Respiratory protection for acrylics is the same as for enamels and lacquers.

Gip Winecoff

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1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Sunday, September 5, 2004 8:33 PM
Gip,

If the water-based acrylics are sprayed would there be vapors that you would need protection from? I figured that a paper respirator is all that is needed as I assumed the pigment was the only bad ingredient in the water-based acrylics.
I know that spraying acrylic cleaners through the airbrush warrants a vapor cartridge respirator as that stuff gives me asthma symptoms.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
Posted by styrene on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 3:03 PM
Mike,
They may be water-based, but once sprayed, any ethers, alcohols, or other waterborne solvents are going to vaporize; therefore, the necessary protection is going to be an organic vapor respirator. You're still going to get some water and pigment, so a good prefilter should work to catch that as well. Continue wearing your MSA half mask, Mike.

Understand that this is totally dependent on the manufacturer-specific ingredients. Some of the acrylics may be TOTALLY water-based, and therefore, a paper mask would probably suffice; however, there are the other ones that use alcohol or other water soluble solvents--like some alcohols.

Without having a complete MSDS library at your disposal for all this stuff, my advice is that if, during the spraying operation, you smell something funky, or if you start feeling lightheaded, nauseated, etc., or if you are simply unsure what's in the stuff and have become justfiably paranoid (Tongue [:P]Big Smile [:D]), slap on a good respirator, vent the room, and spray away.

Help some?
Gip

1882: "God is dead"--F. Nietzsche

1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 8:24 PM
Sounds good Gip.
I use Model Master Acryl so I am not sure what they use in it.
It has a smell that is hard to explain but it reminds me of dirt or something. Laugh [(-D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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