Question about washes

djrost_2000

Member since
February 2003
From: Where the coyote howl, NH

Question about washes

Posted by djrost_2000 on Wednesday, September 8, 2004 12:58 PM

I'm about to darken the water inlet holes on my sub model with black lightened up just a little.
I just sprayed the sides of the sub with gloss lacquer.
I'm not sure if I should use thinned enamel paint to do the job or thinned acrylic paint.
I've heard that thinned enamel paint can eat away at the gloss lacquer.
I've also heard that spraying a lacquer overcoat over acrylic paints can cause problems.

Just wondering what type of paint I should apply for the wash and what type of overcoat should I apply afterward.

Thanks very much,

Dave

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bstrump

Member since
March 2004
From: British Columbia,Canada

Posted by bstrump on Wednesday, September 8, 2004 5:32 PM

I'd go ahead and use the thinned enamel. I think the only thing that'll eat the lacquer paint is lacquer thinner. Enamel thinners are very weak by comparison. I can't say for sure about the acrylic if alacquer overcoat would eat it or not but I think if sprayed in light coats it should be fine. Hope this helps! Smile [:)]

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maddafinga

Member since
March 2003
From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma

Posted by maddafinga on Wednesday, September 8, 2004 7:25 PM

I like artists oils personally. You can get water soluable ones that can't possibly hurt your paint or the regular ones that might if you use them carelessly. If you use a bit of care however, they'd be fine as well. There's a very good article on this in the latest FSM. Check it out if you can.

Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:54 AM

Just to add another totally different perspective, I use artists watercolours.

The lure of these for me, is that if I make a complete pig's ear of it, I only have to wash them off and start again.

I just apply the watercolour roughly, let it dry, then wipe away any excess with a damp tissue. Et voila, shadow wash!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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djrost_2000

Member since
February 2003
From: Where the coyote howl, NH

Posted by djrost_2000 on Friday, September 10, 2004 6:34 PM

I sprayed my model with Testor's gloss lacquer. I used a wash of enamel thinned with testors enamel thinner. It seemed to eat into the lacquer coat.

I'm wondering, if you use a acrylic or watercolor wash, can you spray a coat of lacquer over that after it's dry?

Thanks,

Dave

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:14 AM

QUOTE: [i]

I'm wondering, if you use a acrylic or watercolor wash, can you spray a coat of lacquer over that after it's dry?

Thanks,

Dave

Dave, in short, yes you can.

I've sprayed Future and acrylic varnishes over the top of watercolour washes without any problems.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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djrost_2000

Member since
February 2003
From: Where the coyote howl, NH

Posted by djrost_2000 on Saturday, September 11, 2004 10:59 AM

Karl,

Thanks very much for the info. I think what I'll do from now on is when painting with enamels, spray clear gloss lacquer or acrylic over the paintjob, then do a wash with acrylic or watercolors, and seal with a flat acrylic overcoat.

Thank you,

Dave

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