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                        Needle Juice

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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, September 19, 2004 8:59 AM
                        don't worry, there's times I think to myself that this just isn't my decade...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        dtraskos
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Fowlerville, Mich
                        Posted by dtraskos on Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:29 AM
                        Mike V,
                        Disregard previous. I hit the wrong key. This doesn`t appear to be my month.
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                        dtraskos
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Fowlerville, Mich
                        Posted by dtraskos on Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:25 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by traskos

                        Mike V & tho 9900
                        I lost my head. Anyhow it`s the first mistake I made this year.


                        None of us are perfect my friend. Wink [;)]

                        QUOTE: The stuff i`m thinking of contains almost all canola oil. Your right about not eating teflon, but you know if you check the ingredients on a lot of the foods you do eat you may never eat them again. I had a tour of a hot dog making plant yrs. ago and it was not that long ago that I finally had a hot dog>


                        I know that a hotdog is basically a pig in a blender but they haven't killed anyone yet......I don't think. Big Smile [:D]
                        I know what you mean though. Yuck [yuck]

                        Mike
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:36 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by traskos

                        Mike V & tho 9900
                        I lost my head. Anyhow it`s the first mistake I made this year.


                        None of us are perfect my friend. Wink [;)]

                        QUOTE: The stuff i`m thinking of contains almost all canola oil. Your right about not eating teflon, but you know if you check the ingredients on a lot of the foods you do eat you may never eat them again. I had a tour of a hot dog making plant yrs. ago and it was not that long ago that I finally had a hot dog>


                        I know that a hotdog is basically a pig in a blender but they haven't killed anyone yet......I don't think. Big Smile [:D]
                        I know what you mean though. Yuck [yuck]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        dtraskos
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                        • From: Fowlerville, Mich
                        Posted by dtraskos on Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:51 PM
                        Mike V & tho 9900
                        I lost my head. Anyhow it`s the first mistake I made this year. The stuff i`m thinking of contains almost all canola oil. Your right about not eating teflon, but you know if you check the ingredients on a lot of the foods you do eat you may never eat them again. I had a tour of a hot dog making plant yrs. ago and it was not that long ago that I finally had a hot dog>
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:11 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

                        I don't think the stuff you spray in pans contains Teflon.
                        I wouldn't want to eat the stuff myself and I don't think the FDA would either. Wink [;)]


                        that's exaclty what I was thinking... was starting to sound like Chirs (Salty) and his Tenax experience... lol!

                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:08 PM
                        the Crescendo needles are already coated in Teflon according to the book, and they seem pretty smooth already... but anything that makes it a little easier to keep clean and smoother is nice... I might wait and see how the airbrush does after more spraying...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        jdavidb
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Kennesaw, GA
                        Posted by jdavidb on Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:57 PM
                        I've read somewhere else about polishing needles with Micro-mesh. I'm gonna try it. They were talking about polishing the sharpened end too, but my guess is that part should be skipped & just roll the body of the needle through the pinched Micro-mesh.

                        Paasche has a 2nd needle for V fine tips that is polished. I think it should be the one & only needle that is sold for use with that tip. There's just no point in a non-polished needle existing when there's a polished one being sold.

                        Putting oil on the Omni 5000 needle smoothed it out a lot, but I bet I can get it more like Iwata smoothness if I polish it with Micro-mesh.
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:02 AM
                        I don't think the stuff you spray in pans contains Teflon.
                        I wouldn't want to eat the stuff myself and I don't think the FDA would either. Wink [;)]

                        I say give them all a try and see what you like best.
                        Try roosterfish's vegetable oil suggestion, Vasoline, cooking spray and Needle Juice or Super Lube and see which one you prefer.
                        I imagine they all work to some extent.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:30 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by traskos

                        Teflon spray used to spray kitchen pans to keep food from sticking will do it . Put some on a paper towel and wipe the needle with it All you are doing is trying to keep paint from sticking to the needle


                        do you have a name brand for the stuff? I've only seen the regular Pam spray on stuff here...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        dtraskos
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                        • From: Fowlerville, Mich
                        Posted by dtraskos on Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:58 AM
                        Teflon spray used to spray kitchen pans to keep food from sticking will do it . Put some on a paper towel and wipe the needle with it All you are doing is trying to keep paint from sticking to the needle
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:33 AM
                        mike: it's a $5 base and almost 20% taxes, last time I recieved a package from the us. in adition to the $7 shipping I paid for 'shipping'
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 17, 2004 8:32 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

                        alltooflat.com/elgoog a mirrered google: everything is backwards.

                        mike, I don't justify paying almost 25 bucks for a little can of regdab. 3 for the actual merchandice, 7 s&h, 5 customs, and 10 taxes.


                        Ryan,

                        Do they charge the customs and taxes on all packages sent to Canada or is it just from retailers?
                        There has to be a store in Canada that sells Medea Super Lube or Badger Needle Juice.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Friday, September 17, 2004 7:42 PM
                        that means you can use it as an excuse to buy more stuff with it to justify shipping... I do it all the time, my wife falls for it.... haha she doesn't mind... but if all I need is X I think ahead to anything else needed or might be needed in coming builds... and get it ahead of time to cover the cost of shipping better...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 17, 2004 6:52 PM
                        alltooflat.com/elgoog a mirrered google: everything is backwards.

                        mike, I don't justify paying almost 25 bucks for a little can of regdab. 3 for the actual merchandice, 7 s&h, 5 customs, and 10 taxes.
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Friday, September 17, 2004 10:01 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by jdavidb


                        What he was talking about is v e g e t a b l e oil


                        ::SWWWooooosh:: did ya see that??? it went right over my head!!! haha
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 17, 2004 7:22 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

                        Wahahah is there anything that can be substituted, vaseline, etc?

                        Ryan,

                        Some people used to use Vasoline on the needle and I would imagine some still do. Just be careful and use a very light amount as too much could affect the paint.
                        The main advantage to Needle Juice and Super Lube is that they contain Teflon, I believe, though I am not sure. It lasts quite a while though and the other oils I don't think will.

                        Also remember that although some would consider Needle Juice and Super Lube as being "too expensive for oil" a tube will last you for many years, so it is very cheap in the long run.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        jdavidb
                        • Member since
                          August 2004
                        • From: Kennesaw, GA
                        Posted by jdavidb on Friday, September 17, 2004 7:09 AM
                        Do a Google search for elbategev, and you get:
                        QUOTE:
                        nolliuoB elbategeV 98.4$ ... nirtxedotlam ,tcartxe tsaey
                        ,(slio rewolfnus dna mlap) lio elbategeV ,tlas aeS:stneidergnI ...
                        www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/index.cgi?dir=/ &page=/froogle%3Fq=sea+salt+store:truefoods%26filter=0 - 28k - Cached - Similar pages

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                        weN etiteP dellirG • seotamot dna skeel ,kcots elbategev ,smoorhsum dliw ...
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                        ... ababila.www etobegnapoT VT hciereB med sua etobegnA .reih eiS nednif VT
                        ed.etobegnapot-vt.www 59.43$ reciujyhtlaeH ehT ssargtaehW dna elbategeV ,tiurF naelc ...


                        Wow... 98.4$ for some nirtxedotlam tcartxe tsaey. Can't beat that.

                        What he was talking about is v e g e t a b l e oil
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Friday, September 17, 2004 5:56 AM
                        where do you get that/ read about it?
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        roosterfish
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                          November 2003
                        • From: Stockton CA USA
                        Posted by roosterfish on Friday, September 17, 2004 1:21 AM
                        Yes there is a perfect substitute for the expensive oil but no one listens to me as I'm not in the click. So ignore my addition to this thread when I tell you that elbategev oil will work just as well as the very expensive airbrush oils.
                        Winners never quit; quitters never win.
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 17, 2004 12:07 AM
                        no I'm serious. I don't wanna pay $10 shipping, and $10 customs just for a $3 bottle of needle juice or regdab
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:10 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

                        Wahahah is there anything that can be substituted, vaseline, etc?



                        sicko..... Clown [:o)]
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:56 PM
                        Wahahah is there anything that can be substituted, vaseline, etc?
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:27 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

                        hmmm... besides it being badger spelt backwards no...


                        Haha. That's it! Wink [;)]
                        Some people don't realize that, and neither did I the first time I saw it.
                        I asked Ken about the name and he said it was thought up by an overpayed marketer that used to work for Badger. He now works for Iwata. Big Smile [:D]

                        Mike


                        Lol! I thought it was gonna mean something else! Yeah I have been around a few of those 'overpaid marketing' guys... wish I could make their money for sitting around coming up with those "ideas"... maybe I'll send Badger a letter about the Woodtek Azbak model 2000 and see if they bite...

                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:21 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

                        hmmm... besides it being badger spelt backwards no...


                        Haha. That's it! Wink [;)]
                        Some people don't realize that, and neither did I the first time I saw it.
                        I asked Ken about the name and he said it was thought up by an overpayed marketer that used to work for Badger. He now works for Iwata. Big Smile [:D]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:27 PM
                        hmmm... besides it being badger spelt backwards no...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        MikeV
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                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:22 PM
                        Tom,

                        Do you know why they named it Regdab? Just curious. Big Smile [:D]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        MusicCity
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                          January 2004
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:22 PM
                        Art supply stores or any place that carries a lot of airbrush accessories. Mine is made by Medea and it seems to work fine. Makes things a good bit smoother.
                        Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:21 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by f-4phantom

                        To you people that use needle juice, where do you get it from?


                        Hey Dean, you can order it online at dixieart.com, it's called Regdab Needle Juice and it sells for $3.35 a bottle. from the main page click on airbrushes, then Badger Main, then scroll down towards the bottom and it's right before you get to the end of the page.
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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