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Exhaust Colour?
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 8:11 AM
What colour should I paint the exhaust Manifolds on my Hurricane?

It looks like a sort of rusted red kinda colour...

Any suggestions?

Thanks

B
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Posted by pingtang on Sunday, October 3, 2004 8:53 AM
Try painting them silver and then dry-brushing with a rusty brown colour (Tamiya metallic brown ordark copper works well.).
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 3, 2004 9:01 AM
I usually use MM Burnt Metal metallizer, it says it is for airbrush only but never had a problem with it... then I dry brush the rust on...
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Posted by Mark Joyce on Sunday, October 3, 2004 9:42 AM
Hi Bruce,

Another Metalizer color that might work is "Burnt Iron." I used them on my P-40 exhausts and was quite pleased with the color. It has a slight reddish tinge to it, which might be what you are looking for. If it's not reddish enough, you could always drybrush more red on it.

Metalizers are best airbrushed. I tried brushing them on but wasn't successful, although I know, as tho9900 said, others have had more luck. Some Metalizer colors come in spray cans, although I don't know if Burnt Iron is one.

Mark
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, October 3, 2004 10:09 AM
I'm not exactly sure when they started doing it, but on most later prop-driven warbirds the exhaust manifolds weren't iron or black, they were stainless steel. The black color comes from soot building up on the manifolds from the cylinder in front.

I usually use Model Master Stainless Steel metalizer (I hate airbrushing laquer or enamel so I normally use the buffing kind from a rattle can). Blow some Tamiya Clear Blue and Clear Yellow on the tubes to simulate the heat discoloration and then some Tamiya Smoke or just some flat black on the front sides and around the tops and bottoms to simulate where the airflow would pull the smoke.

Again, I'm not sure about the Hurricanes. They may have actually had cast iron manifolds. If so Burnt Iron would be a good choice, or flat black with some dark red chalk dust brushed on.
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, October 3, 2004 11:00 AM
For Hurricanes, I spray the exhausts with ModelMaster Burnt iron, add a wash of black. let dry, then dry brush the upper portion of the stubs with red brown ( I use Vallejo acrylic ), & finish off with a wash of Citadel Rust Brown ink. Lots of work for a small detail, but they look pretty realistic when done.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 3, 2004 11:06 AM
that does sound like it would produce a nice looking manifold Rick... might give it a shot on the Defiant I am going to build for the Battle of Britain GB... but might subsitute the last wash for the red chalk Music City mentioned...

Thanks!
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 3, 2004 11:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mark Joyce


Metalizers are best airbrushed. I tried brushing them on but wasn't successful, although I know, as tho9900 said, others have had more luck. Some Metalizer colors come in spray cans, although I don't know if Burnt Iron is one.

Mark


Hey Mark! Just curious what kind of problems you had with it... I've only used the burnt metal so far and dry brushed or washed the other colors on top. I was just curious because someone else said they had a problem before, forget what color of it they were using. Wanna be ready in case it's certain colors of metallizer that do it... I'll know in advance...

---Tom---
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 1:21 PM
try gunmetal+rusty brown+buff, should work fine. don't know the proportions Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Mark Joyce on Sunday, October 3, 2004 7:00 PM
QUOTE: [Hey Mark! Just curious what kind of problems you had with it.


Hi Tom,

Basically, just poor coverage. Burnt Iron is the only Metalizer color I've used, but it's probably similar to the others in being very thin. In fact, I found that I don't need to thin it any more when airbrushing it. You probably have some technique which I don't have that enables you to brush it on. I just can't do it to my liking.

Mark

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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, October 4, 2004 6:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mark Joyce

QUOTE: [Hey Mark! Just curious what kind of problems you had with it.


Hi Tom,

Basically, just poor coverage. Burnt Iron is the only Metalizer color I've used, but it's probably similar to the others in being very thin. In fact, I found that I don't need to thin it any more when airbrushing it. You probably have some technique which I don't have that enables you to brush it on. I just can't do it to my liking.

Mark



ahhh then it is likely the colors then, I am sure there's nothing special I am doing... I just use a cheap testers slant tip brush to apply mine. nice even strokes to keep 'streaking' of the flakes down... I tend to leave the brush fairly wet with paint to keep the streaking to a minimum... but it always seems to cover ok... next time I am at the hobby store I will pick up the burnt iron and try it... who knows? maybe I perfected a technique and I didn't even know it! haha...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 7, 2004 3:48 PM
Brilliant.

Thanks, those are all good ideas.

B
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 7:48 AM
Try mixing matt black,gold leaf and matt red in proportions that give you the result. closest to what you are looking for. Using these colours I find I can get pretty close.
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