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straightening an air hose...
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 11:12 PM
hey ppls!!

ive bought my self this plastic/rubber? air hose for my ab. now when i bought it it was rolled up, and now when i untie it and use it, it always curls back up, and really annoys me... ive tries hanging it with a weight at one end (for over a day), which kinda worked, but it still tires top curl up.... today i let it sit in a bucket of hot water then hung it up again, again with moderate success..

just wondering if anyone here has any tips on how to straighten it out?

cheers!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 3, 2004 11:50 PM
The air hose that I'm currently using used to be like that, but time and gravity have taken its toll on it and it's now straightened. It has been attached to my airbrush which I keep in my airbrush "hanger" on the garage wall after use. Being suspended from the AB for about a few weeks straightened it out. In your case, doing the weight thing will accelerate the uncurling. Just give it a week or so.

Cheers,
onyan
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 4, 2004 7:26 PM
or just use a little twist tie to create a small tab, and use another twist tie to tie it straight to the wall. also helpful if you constantly drop your airbrush. the twist tie limits the amount of airhose you have.
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, October 4, 2004 10:05 PM
I have never had that problem because all I have ever used is the braided hoses.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 4, 2004 10:44 PM
yea i wanna get myself a braided hose, but my lhs doent have any, and i didnt wanna order one from the states... im gonna go and check out some craft stores...
but ive been letting the hose sit in hot water then hanging it with a weight at one end and its straightening itself slowly.... im just gonna keep at it and itll be fine i think....

thanks for the replies everyone!!
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, October 4, 2004 10:48 PM
If you can't locate a braided hose let me know and I can send you one of my extras if the postage isn't too high. Wink [;)]
I have a couple of Thayer & Chandler 6' braided hoses that I no longer use.

It is for a Badger airbrush correct?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 4:21 AM
mike if u could do that it would be awesome...letme know how much postage is and well work something out...
thanks mate!!!
oh ya its for an anthem...
oh, theres something i wanna ask u mike...ive read somewhere that u gave someone instructions on how to clean an ab after spraying enamels, just wondering if u coulod point me in the direction of the threrad..
cheers again!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 6:41 PM
aw man i want an airhose
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 7:42 PM
tominator,

I am not sure what shipping would cost but from the search I did on websites it looks like shipping would be quite high. [:0]

In regards to cleaning that airbrush, I posted this a while back on cleaning a gravity-feed airbrush and I just modified it for siphon-feed cleaning.

Cleaning a Siphon-feed airbrush

I like to spray out the airbrush at higher pressures and use 50 psi myself, but if yours only puts out 20-30 then just use as much pressure as you can.

Dump the excess paint out and wipe the cup with a paper towel or rag.
Fill the cup about ½-¾ of the way with cleaner and then take an old paintbrush and wipe around inside the cup and down in the bottom of the cup around the needle with it to break loose the paint particles. Just dab it into the needle area in the bottom of the cup and it cleans very well.
I like a flat paintbrush about 3/8” wide, but you can use what you want. Just make sure the paintbrush is not one of those real cheap ones that the hairs fall out of, as you don’t want the hair getting into the airbrush and possibly causing problems down the road.

After that, spray the cleaner out of the airbrush.
You can now look into the cup to see how well you cleaned it.
If you see paint particles around the bottom of the cup still, then add a few drops of cleaner to the cup and dab the paintbrush into that area to break it loose, and fill the cup up about ½ way again with cleaner, wipe around in the cup with the paintbrush again and spray that out.
Wipe the inside of the cup with a soft rag or paper towel to clean any paint on the sides of the cup that may still be there. An old cotton T-shirt works good for this.
If you still see any residual paint particles, then once again dab the paintbrush around inside the cup with a few drops of cleaner in the bottom of the cup.

Fill the cup halfway with cleaner once more and hold a rag over the end of the airbrush to stop air from coming out of the tip. Push down on the trigger and pull back slowly and you will bubbles in the color cup as you are back flushing the airbrush. If you use high pressures to clean like I do then be careful doing this because if you have lacquer or other toxic cleaners in the cup and you pull the trigger back too far, it can shoot the cleaner up out of the cup and possibly into your eyes. That is why I say to pull the trigger back slowly until you get a pretty good amount of bubbles coming back into the cup. Do this for maybe 5 seconds or so and then look to see if any paint particles have appeared in the cup. Sometimes you will see paint particles, and sometimes you don’t, but I mention this just to let you see that back flushing can clean areas that just spraying out the airbrush can sometimes miss.
If there were very little paint particles in the cup from back flushing, then spray that cleaner out, fill the cup about ¼ way once more with cleaner and spray that out.

Remove the color cup, turn the airbrush over and clean inside the siphon-tube opening with a cotton swab soaked in thinner or cleaner for your paint type.
Also clean the siphon tube of the color cup with a pipe cleaner or brush soaked in thinner.
After it is good and clean then put the cup back into the airbrush and fill the cup ¾ of the way with filtered or distilled water for acrylics or thinner for enamels and spray that all out.
You can fill it about ½ way once more if you like and spray that out also, but if it seems clean enough it is not necessary.
Some people like to then just spray air through the airbrush for several seconds to dry out the insides, but that is up to you. Sometimes I do it and sometimes I don’t.
Now wipe the inside of the cup out with a rag, wipe any paint off the outside of the airbrush and you are done.



About every 3 or 4 times of using the airbrush I will take the needle out after cleaning the airbrush and wipe it off with a rag with some thinner on it to get any paint that may have not gotten cleaned quite well enough in previous cleanings. I then apply Badger Needle Juice or Medea Super Lube to the needle to help eliminate tip dry and keep paint from adhering to the needle. I also like a drop on the trigger to make it smoother as well as putting a drop on my finger and rubbing it around inside the color cup to make paint removal easier when cleaning.
These two products do not affect paint at all and are safe with enamels, lacquers, acrylics, and urethanes.

Every airbrush expert I know does not recommend disassembly to clean it each time and I agree.
Disassembling the airbrush each time is not necessary and I don’t personally recommend it because the potential of damaging the needle, tip, needle bearing, and other parts increases each time you take it apart. Some people feel it is better to take it apart each time and give it a thorough cleaning, and you have to make that decision yourself.

I hope this is helpful

Mike


Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 8:21 PM
share the wealth mike
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 9:09 PM
cheeers mike!!...
yea shipping is a bitch from the states to oz... i usually pay equal or more for shipping as i did for the item i bought!!!
and thanks for the cleaning inst. i found ther ones for grav ab's but now that youve modified it for siphons, its even better!!!!
**tominator gives miokev a big hug!!*** ;)
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 9:17 PM
Glad you liked it mate. Wink [;)]
The only cheaper shipping I found would take 4-6 weeks to get. [:0]
What are they doing that would take 6 weeks? Putting in a bottle with a cork in it and tossing it into the ocean? Confused [%-)]Laugh [(-D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 9:27 PM
wow! a lot huh? I just shipped Reggiethedorf my old AB, 3 bottles, a nozzle wrench etc.. for 12.50 to Singapore!

Tominator, I would check into that... maybe a revolution is in order!!! Give me an airbrush or give me death! that kinda stuff hahah...

it's funny how shipping varies tho... When I was on the ship, the doctor I flew medevac with shipped a Lladro figurine to his wife from Spain for like 10 dollars... I got back to the states and to ship something which weighed a LOT less to a friend I had made while in Germany cost like twice as much! (of course I shipped it anyway as it was a girl I was shipping to) haha
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 9:41 PM
man i paid 20 usd tp have my antem delivered , and that was just the ab, colour cup, tip cover and trigger cap, oh and a spanner for iwata ab's ???
it doesnt help that oz is so far from everwhere....
but ill keep my eyes open i should b able to pick one up...
thanks forthe help everyone!!!!
oh, and the hoise is getting straightened slowly... itll get there soon....
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 10:04 PM
maybe you could make a death threat that your lhs buy braided airhoses :D

mike cmon i'll share some wealth...
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 11:18 PM
hehehe or maybe highly trained seagulls?? :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 5, 2004 11:20 PM
oh yea i just remebered...
to add to the shipping of my lovley ab,, i recived a invoice 4 'quarantine cost' for about 45aud (25 - 30 usd)!!! my bargain ab off ebay isnt such a bargain anymore :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 8:36 PM
to straighten your airhose, may i reccomend hanging it, then using a hairdryer. it heats the rubber up more than just hot water. as the hot water evaporates it cools too, making it less effective. got the idea from an RC car site, you coil up excess servo leads around a screwdriver then hairdry the wire. works great.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 9:07 PM
hey thanks reggie.... thats a good idea....i was noticing the exact same thing with the hot water, it cools to quickly...
well its been hanging there for a few days now and its is alot straighter than before, it still has large curves init....im gonna give it a once over withthe hair dryer and that should be fine...
thanks evryone!!

oh i just had this idea pop in2my head, its a bit off topic, but what the hell!! ;)
im using some fuse wire to detail a car (wires etc) and do u think that if i used the hairdryer to heat the wire up it would be easier to work with?
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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 9:15 PM
QUOTE: What are they doing that would take 6 weeks? Putting in a bottle with a cork in it and tossing it into the ocean? Confused [%-)]Laugh [(-D]

Wizard of 'Oz' Airlines. Toss it at a tornado and hope for the best. Big Smile [:D]
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 9:20 PM
hehehe

but u think with all those tornados in the states atm, it'd be a bit cheaper wouldnt you? :)
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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 9:28 PM
They probably have to pay the guy who chucks them in the tornado a pretty hefty salary.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 9:29 PM
hehehee yeah true, danger pay and all that crap
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 7, 2004 1:42 AM
heating it with a hairdryer is a great idea. careful you dont blow small parts around (i speak with experience), heat it away from your main work area, and also keep it away from any plastic.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 7, 2004 2:14 AM
I don't have that problem no longer as I now only use spiral hoses, those work better for me.
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