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  • From: SETX. USA
Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

I still want a 100 lg. while the badger 155 is very wonderful, I can only think of 2 things i don't like. 1: it's a siphon feed. that's not an error or bad, I just like gravity more and stupid michaels didn't have any 100's. 2. the hose comes off like mad off the airbrush so it kinda leeks sometimes. both are minor, and I would gladly buy 30 badger 155's if i ever had to


thats wierd... mine does too... thought it was just me... my hose gets loose more often than not...

a HP-CR is in my future.... I feel it... just for kicks...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

gotta sieze this moment and put the styrene away for a while, hopefully a short while, and concentrate on my future for the next couple of months.............its gonna be a wild ride but we are excited about it. the hp-cr will get to my bench eventually though. later.


understandable Chris... my brother n law is heading your way soon I think... he is a painter with his own business/employees... he's not capitalizing on the disaster.. but wanting to help them and him at the same time... thinking of Gulf Shores? an awesome place, or anywhere near there... white sand without the tourist thing of Pensacola/Panama City...

Looking forward to having you back!!! We miss you bubba!

Going to N.O. in Dec, might think of bringing you a kit of your ship (that sank MY ship <kidding>)as a present... the HP-Cr is your own responsibility!! hahah if I get it before you I will let ya know how it is... but this 155 is nice!!!!

P.S. I am still looking forward to seeing that SBD finished!!!
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 10, 2004 6:21 PM
I still want a 100 lg. while the badger 155 is very wonderful, I can only think of 2 things i don't like. 1: it's a siphon feed. that's not an error or bad, I just like gravity more and stupid michaels didn't have any 100's. 2. the hose comes off like mad off the airbrush so it kinda leeks sometimes. both are minor, and I would gladly buy 30 badger 155's if i ever had to
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:36 AM
i'm wondering if i'll ever get back to my bench the way things are changing in my life!! Ivan was a negative moment, then it turned into a positive quickly as a building contractor. the only draw back is that it leaves NO time for modelling whatsoever!! Sad [:(] but, when things do calm down a notch or 3, i'll have plenty of money to buy the modelling stuff that i want!!Big Smile [:D] it seems that a change of adress is iminent in my life, my wife and i have always wanted to move further south and take advantage of the building boom happening in that area. now that the storm has happened, i've had plenty of offers in that area.............lucritive offers too!! gotta sieze this moment and put the styrene away for a while, hopefully a short while, and concentrate on my future for the next couple of months.............its gonna be a wild ride but we are excited about it. the hp-cr will get to my bench eventually though. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 10, 2004 7:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog
[brwho cares if you "need" it KJ!!LOL i just "want" another one to play with!! go ahead and splurge my friend!! i plan to, i'm purchasing the hp-cr asap.............do i need it?..........NO!!! i just want it is all!! later.


haha that is it Chris! Last weekend happened to come across the Michaels coupon in the Sunday paper, thought about the Badger 155 everyone was talking about, and.. BAM! There it it in my airbrush holder as I type.... and that hp-cr is in the back of my head too... so who knows it might be soon adorning my desk as well! Clown [:o)]
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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  • From: Bicester, England
Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, October 10, 2004 7:49 AM
Salty, the 100 is mighty attractive, but at the moment I need certain essentials more than I need another AB.

Essentials like a pressure regulator and moisture trap, and some decent lighting would be good too.

It'll stay on my wish list though.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 7, 2004 8:04 PM
need not, but want? that's a differnet story.

I really wish I had 3+ more airbrushes. maybe an h&s evolution limited, maybe a tamiya trigger type, and for sure a 100 lg.
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Thursday, October 7, 2004 7:10 PM
QUOTE: But do I really need another AB?


who cares if you "need" it KJ!!LOL i just "want" another one to play with!! go ahead and splurge my friend!! i plan to, i'm purchasing the hp-cr asap.............do i need it?..........NO!!! i just want it is all!! later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Thursday, October 7, 2004 7:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jdavidb
Does the 100 have that oval pool in the bottom of the color cup like the Omni gravity feeds do?


Actually it is more rounded than the Omni 4000 and has a smoother finish.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Kennesaw, GA
Posted by jdavidb on Thursday, October 7, 2004 4:59 AM
I bet the 100 is great. I imagine it is equally as interesting and useful as the VJR. I sure do like the small, smooth cup on the VJR when it comes to cleaning it out. Does the 100 have that oval pool in the bottom of the color cup like the Omni gravity feeds do?

The Omni is a must have for me. If I had kept the Eclipse, I would have still gotten an Omni at some point.
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Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, October 7, 2004 3:20 AM
My Omni 4000 looks like ?@&%, but still sprays like a dream.

My old Badger 200 looks even worse, but does the same.

I can't be doing with keeping things pristine, it detracts from my modelling time.

1337 Must admit those Badger 100s are looking very attractive!

But do I really need another AB?

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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  • From: Kennesaw, GA
Posted by jdavidb on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 9:22 PM
If the Badger 100 n/n's are about the same size as the Paasche V 1's and V 2's, I'd say the Eclipse people are still getting an airbrush that's worth it because the Eclipse beats the V #2 for fine lines, while the V #1 beats the other two for fine lines, but the paint has to be so thin it's just tinted thinner. So, the Eclipse can spray in between the capabilities of the V1 and V2, yet you don't have to thin the paint to shoot it through an Eclipse like you do for a V1. Basically, I think the Eclipse gets the lines as thin and tight as model paints can possibly go when reasonably thinned. That's extremely thin, and it may be all they'll ever need.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 5:50 PM
ok good

Something else for eclipse users to think about: for the price of 1[one] eclipse, you can buy 2[two] badger 100's. beat that!
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Three Airbrushes commentary
Posted by jdavidb on Wednesday, October 6, 2004 4:50 AM
Looks like the Paasche VJR with head & needle assembly #2 has taken over most duties. Its color cup is the best design for quick cleanup. It is quicker to clean out and flush than the Iwata Eclipse or the Omni 5000.

Once I saw the little pinhole in the bottom of the VJR's cup, I finally bought all 3 sizes of Microbrushes. Those things are extremely useful for a whole bunch of stuff! No more Q-tips (almost).

I have also used the VJR with its #1 assembly with the paints extremely thin to do tedious touch-up stuff. With the #1 and very thin paint, I can actually get thinner lines than I used to get with the Iwata Eclipse hp-bs. I did better flames (on paper) with the VJR #1 than I did with the Omni.

The Omni's one and only head assembly does beat the VJR's #2 for fine lines though.

I have no regrets about buying the Omni 5000 though. That airbrush's cup is bigger than the Eclipse hp-bs, yet still small enough for me to like it. I actually like the pool in the bottom of the cup (the nail art airbrush's fluid cavity) even though it's not as easy to clean out as other designs. It holds more paint down inside the body rather than having to have a bigger cup on top of the body. So, the Omni 5000 is what I use to do a 1/24 car body or other multi-part / one-color paint sessions.

The lines I am capable of with the Omni are almost as thin and tight as they were with the Iwata Eclipse.

Now that I've had all these particular airbrushes in use, I think the price on the Iwata hp-bs being $40 more than an Omni is justified. It's not that the Eclipse does a better job. It just has a better feel. It has a smoother trigger without oiling the needle. The spring action is perfect on the Eclipse... nice & useful even when tightened all the way in. The name & model stamp on the Eclipse is perfect while the Omni 5000 stamp is quite messy.

The Iwata Eclipse always made me feel like it needs to remain perfectly clean at all times though. I hated using a wrench to get the head assembly off that perfectly chromed up nozzle cap, but I did, and it never did gash up the chrome. But, the Omni comes with a wrench for this purpose. It feels aok to just torque the head off of that airbrush. There is no feeling like I need to polish the Omni inside & out after every use either.

Iwata Eclipse users shouldn't feel like they got ripped off, because there are $40 worth of extras in that airbrush. But Omni users did get a great tool for a great price that performs only minutely different than an Eclipse, and that's only in the area of fine lines and trigger smoothness.

Now, my Eclipse hp-bs is sold. I would kinda miss it at this point, but I'm lovin' the Paasche VJR for the jobs I originally bought the Eclipse for. I got the Paasche VJR (used) for $23 + $6 shipping heheheh. I got the Omni 5000 for $66 brand new.
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