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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 5:06 PM
Well I decided to appear finally... coral 'ole CHris in Wink [;)]. Dont you have a tree to take outta someones yard???? Seriously Molina the 350, 200 and Paashe are all top notch. I learned on a 350 and went to a 200 with a Paashe 500 compressor. I know use a Omni 4000 and a Badger 360. Also use a Iwata Minispray gun for wide coverage. I want to take you back to your compressor. I think canned air is the worst thing to learn with. It is not a reliable source of air... at all. Open your yellow pages and find a airbrush store, they will have a very wide assortment of air at ok prices. I myself have gone from a compressor to a co2 can (20 gal) because I need absolute silence.

www.coastairbrush.com is a good place to start.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:35 PM
my first airbrush was a badger 350 and for what I was painting worked wonders. I now have a Thayer & Chandler vega 2000 which is excellent but I still Use my Cheap 350 Because it is a quality airbrush and is cheap.
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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:19 PM
i'll vouch for the hobby lobby myself!! i've done some major rackin' up when it comes to stash buildin' during the hobby lobby 1/2 off plastic sales!! i'd say that 90% of my purchases of kits have come from the 1/2 off sales! and like scott says, they have great modelling tools scattered amongst the store.........kinda like huntin' easter eggs when you were a kid!!LOL i also bought some of my "photo lab" there for photographing my builds. later.
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:32 PM
actually the Hobby Lobby near me has sprue cutters etc... next to the airbrushes in the locked case area... (up on the wall behind it) in fact thats where I got my hobby knife AND sprue cutter from...

They got a lotta stuff, you just have to ask where it is.. and I agree, visit the bead necklace making area... you'll find a lot there..

---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:42 PM
congrats on the score!!

hey mike, isn't the 'H' from like 1913 or something?
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:35 PM
QUOTE: I was thinking of checking out Hobby Lobby sometime. There is one just 15 minutes away.

Great source for supplies. Good modeling tools in the section for creating bead necklaces. There are good thins to have scattered all over the place, they just don't have anything specifically to do with models. That's where I found my tweezers and "Sprue Cutters". They also have 50% off sales on all their plastic models from time to time so keep your eyes open.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:32 PM
1893? Wow! I had no idea airbrushes had been around so long.

I was thinking of checking out Hobby Lobby sometime. There is one just 15 minutes away.
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:22 PM
great Molina! and you have a teacher too! even if she airbrushed cakes, that's still all the basic skills you need to know to start...

congrats! hope it works out well for ya, if you have a Hobby Lobby around ya they usually have some inexpensive Revell kits there... in the 7 or 8 dollar range...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Molina00
Edit: I think it is pretty old too. Probably from the early 80's.


You call that old? Laugh [(-D]
The airbrush was designed in 1893, now that's old! Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:05 PM
All I need to do now is win me a model or 2 and get some paint. I'll be sure and let you guys know how it all works out for me when I get started.

Edit: I think it is pretty old too. Probably from the early 80's. I tried it out and from someone who has never used one before it seems to work okay. I might buy some cheapo model just to experiment on and see how it works so I don't ruin a good model.
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, October 17, 2004 1:36 PM
Now THAT is a price you can't beat. Paasche's are good airbrushes and even if it's an old one it will work fine. About the only thing that could go wrong would be the seals drying out, or a split nozzle / bent needle. All are probably replaceable for a very low cost so you should be good to go.
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:30 PM
Very cool Molina! Cool [8D]
Keep us informed on your progress with that Paasche.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:25 PM
I just found out that my grandma used to teach airbrushing a long time ago so I popped over to her place and put together a kit. She had a Paasche (or however you spell it), jars, a cord, all the bits and a compressor so if that brush works good then I'm all set to go. Just need to get in some practice so I know what I'm doing before hand.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:10 PM
the badger 155 is $49 at dixieart, the braided hoses are about $12, and a compressor isn't much more than say...$80 at lowes or something. that's not too much... that's $141, the same retail price as a new Trumpeter 1/32 Su-27 Flanker
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Molina00

Right now I am just getting into modeling so I'm not real sure how big into I really will be so I don't want to lay down a lot for a set when I might just build a model once in a while. I wouldn't pay $150 for a model though. I don't even want to pay more than $50 for one. If all goes well with my modeling and I really enjoy then somewhere down the line I will probably buy a good airbrush set. I appreciate the opinion and advice.

If youre not sure youre going to use the airbrush too much you might want to stick to tamiya spray cans for now. they really do give good finishes, and as long as youre not doing one of those really squiggly camo patterns they do ok. the problem is the limited colors. with an airbrush you can spray anything. once youve done a few models and are addicted like the rest of us go get your airbrush!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:27 AM
just my My 2 cents [2c] ...
About a year ago I bought one of those testors aztek setups with the air cans. It was my first AB. for a while it was great, I could do things that were impossible without it. After a while, it got to the point where I would just rather not airbrush than use it, it got plugged too easy, was hard to clean, dealing with tose stupid cans, just annoying. recently, I bit the bullet and put some cash down for a badger 155 anthem set and a paasche compressor. sure its a little noisy, but now I cant wait to airbrush!the difference is like night and day. Its easy to clean, great line control, great air control.
I dont know anything about other brands, but coming from an aztek, I think anything would be an improvement IMHO.
ps although I never did try that aztek with a compressor, maybe my experience would have been different that way, but I doubt it.
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Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:14 AM
Just a plain old troublemaker in my book... yessiree.. we've seen his type before... Wink [;)]

Don't worry Molina... I had the same debate happen when I asked this question a few months back.... this one was a bit more of a controlled reaction though...
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:21 AM
QUOTE: I had not idea this would turn into such a debate. lol

You get used to it after a while. Chris is the lone Iwata voice in a Badger forest.Tongue [:P]
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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:04 AM
it gets boring around here if we don't start something interesting every now and again. later.Wink [;)]
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:48 AM
I had not idea this would turn into such a debate. lol
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:54 PM
Sorry, I don't know anything about airbrushes 1337. Dunce [D)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 16, 2004 11:29 PM
are you sure that's the cr tip and not your .30 hp-c tip
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Posted by saltydog on Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:44 PM
zactly what you thank Mike gonna do bout' it? try and convince me my eyes are lyin' to me? just because mike say it make it so? NOT!!Smile [:)] later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:17 PM
mike, I think we have a problem here Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:17 PM
I don't think that you will be disappointed with the Iwata, those are nice brushes and easy to care(clean and disassemble, etc).

BTW, not saying that they are the best.
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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog
very true, the airbrush is only as good as the user. but, as a die hard converted iwata fan, i just enjoy "stirring" the waters a little and giving people something else to think about besides a boring old badger airbrush!!LOL


so what you're saying is you're a low down troublemaker? Wink [;)]

actually saw the HP-CR at a new hobby shop I found (and love!!!) for 84 dollars... gotta check dixieart and see what they have it for... might get it as an early Xmas present in case it's mislabeled.. (I noticed the same kit with 3 different prices in the store, still shrink wrapped... I think they price it when it comes in and if it goes up or down they dont change the older kits... All the same just want to try out a gravity feed and for the price it might as well be the Iwata!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog
... but, as a die hard converted iwata fan, i just enjoy "stirring" the waters a little and giving people something else to think about besides a boring old badger airbrush!!LOL


Don't I know how you feel, never used an Iwata yet but am familiar with other brushes from the same factory and they are SWEEET. Cool [8D]
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Posted by saltydog on Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:53 PM
QUOTE: I think when you start to enter the top-end of the airbrushes they will all perform in very similar fashion and differences in result are more to the person using them than the brushes themselves.

very true, the airbrush is only as good as the user. but, as a die hard converted iwata fan, i just enjoy "stirring" the waters a little and giving people something else to think about besides a boring old badger airbrush!!LOL

QUOTE: the cr doesn't compare with the 4000. the 4000 has .35 needle/nozzle, the cr has .5/.5

somebody somewhere is lying to ya friend!! i have the omni tip and the .5mm iwata tip in my possession and can clearly see that the .5mm iwata tip is slightly smaller than the omni tip. Wink [;)] i didn't read it out of some magazine or advertisement, i made a physical observation. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MusicCity on Saturday, October 16, 2004 5:11 PM
QUOTE: I think when you start to enter the top-end of the airbrushes they will all perform in very similar fashion and differences in result are more to the person using them than the brushes themselves.

Precisely! Thumbs Up [tup]
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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