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Stupid panel line question?
Posted by cbreeze on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:16 AM
Greetings,

I have read all the tips and suggestions about weathering with panel lines but in my mind, one question remains. After you have sprayed the panel lines with the darker color, how do you spray the next color? Do you spray normally across the entire piece which would mean that you cover the darker color and that darker color shows through the top coat or do you spray between the panel lines which means that you would not spray over the darker color with the top coat?

Thanks to all who respond!!!!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:49 AM
you spray over everything and let the darker color show through.

remember my friend, the only dumb question is the one you dont ask.
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Posted by F105-Thud on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:15 PM
Yes, it`s a difficult one to master, but comes with practice. Personally I prefer to shade my panel lines after it`s all painted using Tamiya smoke or brown water colours.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:22 PM
I also have the same question. I just bought black oil based paint (normally comes in paste) I read some forums that you can use oil paint for weathering the engine block, panel lines, etc.
first I mix it with some thinner, and then I brush them on the panel lines then I rub the excess paint using tamiya compound, but my body ended up very dirty with black mark around the panel lines.
what did I done wrong ? how to clean the black mark from the oil paint, I already use compound but still comes up dirty.
thanks.
cbreeze, sorry for using your fourm since I have the same question.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:23 AM
many times a panel line wash doesnt work very well for one of two reasons : the paint isnt thin enough, or the application isnt ideal. the medium to run the paint thru the panel lines should be very thin, this is related to the second problem, that is that you should avoid brushing too much pain on, instead, apply a small amount and let capilary action do the work for you.
hope this helps
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:25 AM
paint, not pain Tongue [:P] however, sometimes when im brushing acrylics on, i feel pain Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:03 PM
Hello

I have been thinking about panel lines also.

After reading the article in FSM about washes I conclude that oil paints might work better as the pigment is quite 'heavy' and as the thinner is drawn into the pannel line the pigment settles out into the line giving the darker effect. I think the trick is, thin, thin thin.Someone once described the wash as 'dirty' thinners.

Gunna buy me some oil paint this weekend and test the theory!

Oh, and the water colour option too.

Will file a report on Monday night!

Cheers

Simon

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by nomis

Hello

I have been thinking about panel lines also.

After reading the article in FSM about washes I conclude that oil paints might work better as the pigment is quite 'heavy' and as the thinner is drawn into the pannel line the pigment settles out into the line giving the darker effect. I think the trick is, thin, thin thin.Someone once described the wash as 'dirty' thinners.

Gunna buy me some oil paint this weekend and test the theory!

Oh, and the water colour option too.

Will file a report on Monday night!

Cheers

Simon



But I had problem with oil paint though, the paint doesn't seems to mix with thinner easily. can anyone help ?
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:28 PM
butek, are you sure the paint that you have is artist's oils and not acrylic? acrylics and mineral spirits don't mix well at all friend!!LOL make sure you have the correct paint. i've never had problems thinning down artists oils with mineral spirits.

when the base colors are applied and the subject looks as if it just came off the assemble line, i always apply a coat of future which does 2 things, it acts as a protective barrier for you paint job, and it gives the wash a nice, slick surface for the wash to run in..................call capillary action mentioned above. good luck. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:38 PM
salty dog, when you say mineral spirit, does it mean thinner ?
yes I got the right oil paint from art supply, it comes in paste (tube)

da*n I don't have future here in Indonesia, can I use tamiya's clear paint ?
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:02 PM
yes, tamiya gloss clear is acceptable as a barrier/smooth finsish too. i like to stay with an acrylic gloss coat as the thinner won't react with acrylic if it has cured properly.

as far as mineral spirits, yes, its the same thing as "paint thinner". if it has a petroleum "smell" to it, then its probably mineral spirits..........kinda smells like lighter fluid you'd use to light up charcoal for the grill.

BTW, acrylic paints come in a paste form as well, just like oil piants so just because it is a "paste" doesn't neccessarily mean its oil based. you have a problem with one of the 2 though. either you have the wrong type thinner or wrong type paint. maybe you should go back to the art supply and buy the recommended thinner for the particular paint you purchased. good luck. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 22, 2004 6:02 AM
careful butek, paint store thinner will eat up your model. i speak from very painful experience
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