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Glossy primer????????? How is this to happen???

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  • From: Phoenix,Az
Glossy primer????????? How is this to happen???
Posted by 9x19mm on Friday, October 22, 2004 7:28 AM
Ok so i am trying to make the switch to Alclad 2 from SNJ but ive been having a stupid problem. It seems my airbrush only sprays flat paint. Seriously i dont understand this at all its even happened twice. The first time I decanted Krylon gloss black into a clean used 35mm film canister and then transfered it to my airbrush. I began spraying the model and after I was almost done I realized to my horror that it was flat dead flat no gloss at all. So I just fixed it by not finishing the plane in nmf and painted over the flat black. i just figured that it was my dumb luck and I got mismarked paint. The second attempt was yesterday this time I used testors gloss black. I shot a small test pattern and it appeared gloss so I started spraying my plane and guess what? Flat flat flat its like the dry Arizona air sucks the gloss out of the paint as its drying on the plastic. I have told several people this story and havent gotten any theories better than its a bad batch of paint. It does seem like if I pool the paint up a little it has a greater chance to dry glossy, but if Im going to do that then I might as well use a spray can.... Please if anyone can help on this its driving me nuts.
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  • From: Foothills of Colorado
Posted by Hoser on Friday, October 22, 2004 8:24 AM
Sorry 9x19, no help here but if it makes you feel any better, I had the same problem a few weeks ago. I decanted some cheap Wal-Mart gloss black and the finish came out a semi-gloss. All I can think of is that a) I didn't let the propellant gas out completely or b) I was spraying too far away and the paint was partially dry when it hit the surface. Gonna have to watch this one ...
"Trust no one; even those people you know and trust." - Jack S. Margolis
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 22, 2004 10:54 AM
Two things to watch out for: 1- Dont use a high air pressure (20 psi usually works fine) and 2 -Dont spray too far away from the surface. In both cases the paint will dry-out before settling on the model causing a flat finish.

  • Member since
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, October 22, 2004 11:48 AM
Did you add thinner to the paint? Lacquer thinner will sometimes cause gloss enamel to dry flat.

Regards, Rick
RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 22, 2004 5:31 PM
try putting on a wet coat.
when you say that the test pattern worked fine, id guess that you were spraying too far away and at too high pressures like viper11 said. try lower pressures and closer distances. but watch out for orange peel !
  • Member since
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, October 22, 2004 8:17 PM
i third the "too far away and too much pressure" suggestion. lower the pressure to around 12 psi, move in to around 2-3 inches from the surface of the subject, and try again.............like reggie says, "lay" it on there............ie "wetcoat"!!

another suggestion that has nothing to do with your problem, if i were you, i'd bite the bullet and use the awesomely easy to use Alclad gloss black base and chunk the krylon!! just my opinion. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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    July 2004
  • From: SETX. USA
Posted by tho9900 on Friday, October 22, 2004 8:44 PM
another thing.. what brush are you using? I have a Badger 175 and a 155... no probs with full coverage painting with the 175, BUT with the 155 if I am not careful I end up with flat glosses, or grainy flats... as in too little paint versus pressure... it has a smaller needle than the 175 and I have to get in closer at a lower pressure and COVER it to make it gloss...

of course I fixed this by using my 175 for overall coverage... the 155 for detail... but if you're in this boat and only have 1 airbrush try getting closer with less pressure (not more paint) on a junk model and see what happens...

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Oh yeah I fourth the thing Reggie said!!!!
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
  • Member since
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  • From: Phoenix,Az
Posted by 9x19mm on Monday, October 25, 2004 6:33 AM
First and foremost thx for the responses. the brush I was using was a Badger 100. Sadly my pressure was higher then 12 psi and i was spraying farther out then 2 or 3 inches. Oh well live and learn and yes I intend to use Alclad primer from here out.
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