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Applying washes over enamels?

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Applying washes over enamels?
Posted by four-star on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:40 AM
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the best way of applying a wash over an enamel basecoat would be? I know there are loads of posts concerning washes already, but the majority of them seem to be aimed at washes over an acrylic basecoat. (btw, I would rather avoid the use of Future if possible).

Thanks for your help
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Posted by MusicCity on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:46 AM
Everyone has their own favorite mixture for washes, but mine is either artist's acrylics or artist's water colors. Either one works fine, and as long as the surface is smooth they will come off easily. If the surface is flat they will get down in the texture and are very hard to get off. Water color tends to come off easier than acrylics. Mix them real thin with plain water, and add a couple of drops of dishwashing detergent.
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Posted by cbreeze on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:35 AM
I have had good luck by spraying your favorite gloss coat and using artist oils thinned and washed with lighter fluid. I think Windsor & Newton makes a line of artist oils that you can thin with water. Check your local Hobby Lobby. I have yet to try spraying future. Fom what I have read, it takes a little practice to master.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:10 AM
If you're fond of enamel paints, try letting the base coat cure until you can't smell it anymore (it may take a week or longer). Then make the wash with turpentine and oil or enamel paint. The turpentine is a sufficiently gentle solvent that it shouldn't lift fully cured enamels.
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Posted by four-star on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:48 AM
Thanks for all your tips!
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Posted by darson on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:51 AM
OK, a couple of simple little things to remember;

A wash is best applied over a gloss coat.
if your gloss coat is enamel, then was with acrylics
If your gloss coat is acrylic, then wash with enamels/oils

Cheers
Darren
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Posted by four-star on Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:13 AM
I've heard that some clear coats can go a bit yellow-ish over time. Is this true and if so, is there a way to avoid it?

Cheers
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Posted by cbreeze on Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:49 AM
This particular problem has been discussed before and it seems that yellowing has nothing to do with the gloss coat. Yellowing occurs because the gloss coat was applied before the base coat was given sufficient time to dry. In most cases, it is the base coat that is changing.
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Posted by four-star on Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:44 PM
Thanks. I don't suppose you can remember roughly which post that discussion is in - I searched for it and could not find it. I would be interested to read it, but if not then it is not a problem. Thanks for the advice
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Posted by knight667 on Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by darson

OK, a couple of simple little things to remember;

A wash is best applied over a gloss coat.
if your gloss coat is enamel, then was with acrylics
If your gloss coat is acrylic, then wash with enamels/oils

Cheers
Darren


What if your gloss coat is laquer, like MM Gloss? Future, I assume, counts as an acrylic?
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