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Why does this happen?
Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:49 AM
Below is a photo of what happens whenever I attempt salt weathering.



The kit itself is a paint mule, so no loss, but I always end up with the faded area around the salt after painting, does anyone know why?

I use Tamiya & Gunze acrylics, thinned with Tamiya acrylic thinner, mixed at a 2:1 ration of paint to thinner, all sprayed through an Omni 4000 at around 15 PSI.

I don't know if a barrier coat of Future would stop this, as I am assuming that this affect is as a result of a chemical reaction, and separating the two elements would probably prevent it.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks

Karl

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:18 AM
Maybe the salt still has a little bit of moisture on it, that would ruin the paint job... I'm going to stick to regular old fashioned weathering...
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Posted by MusicCity on Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:01 AM
I think it's probably the solvents in the acrylic paint that is doing it. Apparently salt is more sensitive to those types of solvents than it is the solvents in enamels. I think some acrylics are actually water-BASED and not only water soluble.

Try putting a few pieces of salt in something and putting a drop of paint on them and see what happens. Then try it with a drop of enamel paint. My guess is that the acrylic paint will dissolve the salt and the enamel doesn't.
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Posted by ridleusmc on Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:13 AM
The same thing happened to me. I thought that the salt partially disolved making a surface that the paint doesn't like to stick to. I don't know. My P-51 wasn't a mule, so I cleaned it up as best I could and tried again, but the paint was still messed up. Although, not as bad. I just called it faded paint and gave up. You can see the finished result in this pic, but not that well. Look on the wing where the gun bays would be (right about the center)
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:24 AM
Some swear by the salt technique, some swear at it. I'm not a fan of the technique myself.

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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, November 29, 2004 3:26 AM
Thanks for the comments guys.

I've found that sugar works just as well as salt, just without the fading problem, but having played with the technique I'm still not convinced. I think it looks a little over the top for most aircraft, and it is not as controllable as an artists pencil, which is my prefered chipping method.

Having said that I think I will use silver as my primer coat in future, as it shows up any imperfections beautifully, and if you scratch the paint work, at least it looks like aluminium underneath!

Thanks

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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