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                        Air Regulators, which type?

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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Air Regulators, which type?
                        Posted by KJ200 on Monday, December 6, 2004 7:40 AM
                        I've finally come around to the idea that I need to buy a pressure regulator for my compressor, the question is which type should I go for?

                        Just for background I run a Werther 3 compressor, which sprays at between 15 & 20 PSI, and which all gets packed away after each spraying session. AB is an Omni 4000.

                        Would a normal workshop reguluator do the job, or is it too innacurate?

                        Thanks in advance.

                        Karl



                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        MusicCity
                        • Member since
                          January 2004
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by MusicCity on Monday, December 6, 2004 11:08 AM
                        Karl the regular regulator would probably work, but not accomplish a whole lot. I think you would be able to adjust the pressure but not really tell what it is set to. The pressure gauges on the workshop-type regs usually go from 0 to about 150-200 psi and are in 5 psi increments. You would only be using the lower portion of the gauge and they tend to be relatively inaccurate down there. I can check and see if the regulator will actually work at that low range input (I have two on my setup) but I think it will be OK in that respect.

                        I think you'd be better off with a gauge that reads a lot lower pressures in a lot smaller increments.
                        Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, December 6, 2004 5:49 PM
                        I do too... I used to use the gauge that came on my regulator (from the hardware store) and it worked... but finally saw just the pressure gauge on sale at Hobby Lobby and find it is MUCH easier to use now... you know EXACTLY where it's set now... so if you find spraying at 6psi tends to do good for detail work, then when you set it, it IS at 6psi... not "somewhere around" 6psi...

                        if you already have a industrial style regulator you can order or find the hobby pressure gauges for around $20.00 US
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, December 6, 2004 6:55 PM
                        ahh, im sure any regulator will do just fine... tho9900's will work like a charm im sure.Bow [bow]
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 6, 2004 7:01 PM
                        mine works well....

                        especially considering the way i use it: to regulate air intake
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 3:24 AM
                        Thanks guys.

                        I should have explained myself better.

                        What I'm looking for is the combined gauge/regulator type, possibly with a built in moisture trap.

                        Like Scott & Tom picked up on, I'm concerned that the gauges on the workshop compressors are too coarsely graduated to measure such low pressures.

                        Sounds like I might be buying a normal reg ,with hobby gauge.

                        Thanks for all the feedback guys.

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 6:18 AM
                        Ok, I understand, most of the hobby gauges I have seen are exactly like that... with all 3 in one... you can look on:

                        http://www.dixieart.com/MiscAccessories.html#anchor89730

                        and see the two regulators in the middle.. those are what you want... they can be ordered or bought locally to you I am sure..
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 7:17 AM
                        Tom, thanks for that.

                        I was looking at the Paasche R75 last night.

                        I may well have to buy from Dixieart, as I am having difficulty finding something similar in the UK.

                        The only one I have found in the UK is $80!!! Even if I order one from Dixieart and pay customs duties and shipping, it still works out $20 less!

                        Thanks

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 6:51 PM
                        Shock [:O] wow!!!! now thats a sad state of affairs!!! well good luck to you all the same!!!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, December 8, 2004 11:41 AM
                        Unbelievable isn't it?

                        I might have found one in UK for $60, but I'm waiting on feedback from the vendor as to what the graduation on the gauge is.

                        Thanks for the advice.

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 9, 2004 6:26 PM
                        IF you want a quick way to hook up, just got to a Harbor Frieght store if you have one and get an inline pressure regulator and add on the moisture trap. These are also found at automotive paint stores or anyplace that sells Auto paint type sprayguns. These are the types of regulatores and moisture traps that are on the handle of the paint gun but will also attach to the 1/4 fitting on compressors.
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, December 11, 2004 12:15 PM
                        Pro Thanks for that, but we don't have harbor Freight in the UK.

                        I've now ordered one from Hobbylinc.com.. I tried Dixieart, but they wouldn't ship any order overseas under $45, and anything over $36 I get hit with UK impoart taxes and handling fees, which would add up to at least another $30!!!!!

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, December 11, 2004 2:24 PM
                        ACK! you're screwed no matter which way you look at it! Well when it arrives I think you will be more than happy with the results!!! LEt us know how it turns out!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:12 AM
                        Tom, I should be OK as Hobbylinc only wanted $28.50, which is under the limit for levying of UK import taxes, that and they are sending it US Postal Service, rather than Fedex or UPS who always sting you with $20 handling changes in the UK!!!!!!

                        Should be shipped Wednesday, so I'm hoping it will arrive before Xmas. Especially as I've got 11 days off to play with it in!

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:40 AM
                        great Karl!!! A perfect Christmas present!

                        I hope to have time to get a few builds in myself... mainly the one I hope to give my dad for Xmas.. we'll see.. Enjoy!!!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Tankmaster7
                        • Member since
                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:47 AM
                        I love hobbylinc. it's a great store. really is. i use it for most of my mail order needs.
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Monday, December 13, 2004 3:22 AM
                        Tom I'm hoping to polish off my PZL and my Do217 over Xmas, which then leaves me free for the BoB GB. Best of luck with your modelling over Xmas.

                        Tankmaster Gald to hear that. Haven't heard of them before, but thought what the hell.

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, December 13, 2004 7:57 PM
                        Same to you Karl.. looking forward to pics of your build!

                        I have an SBD coming off the desk this weekend (wife is away visiting relatives, have the entire weekend to myself) then finishing up a Widgeon seaplane which shouldn't take too long (old Airfix kit with no detail) then I have about 15 kits lined up for group builds I have to figure which to start on first... I might go out and find me a Me 110 C/D kit this weekend as I need some paints anyway, fill in some gaps for the Battle of Britain build. then an F4F Martlet and either a 1/72 He111 or maybe a Ju88 if there is time left...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 2:01 AM
                        QUOTE:
                        I have an SBD coming off the desk this weekend (wife is away visiting relatives, have the entire weekend to myself) then finishing up a Widgeon seaplane which shouldn't take too long (old Airfix kit with no detail) then I have about 15 kits lined up for group builds I have to figure which to start on first... I might go out and find me a Me 110 C/D kit this weekend as I need some paints anyway, fill in some gaps for the Battle of Britain build. then an F4F Martlet and either a 1/72 He111 or maybe a Ju88 if there is time left...


                        And what do you intend doing in your spare time?Smile [:)]

                        I'm trying to stick to no more than 2 kits at a time now, as what with work and kids, anymore than that, and nothing ever gets finished!

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        tho9900
                        • Member since
                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:29 PM
                        haha no I will have plenty of time Karl... the SBD and the Martlet are all the things I have on my holiday list at present.. well, the Widgeon but like I said there is nothing to it so it won't take long... the rest is my list in my head for the future... I guess I was just thinking aloud and going down my list there...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:41 PM
                        KJ, Sorry there is no Harbor Frieght but you may still find what you need at an Automotive paint shop. That is were I found some.
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 2:16 AM
                        Tom You had me worried for a moment there! I was starting to feel inadequate as it takes me about 3 months to complete a single kit!

                        Pro I tried numerous tool and automotive vendors, but they all seemed to be either too expensive, or not accurate enough. Ended up ordering one from Hobbylinc.com in the US, it should ship today.

                        Thanks

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:40 PM
                        To bad ! Had I known I would have been glade to drop by harbor freight and just got one for ya!
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:41 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Probuilder

                        To bad ! Had I known I would have been glade to drop by harbor freight and just got one for ya!


                        Not to worry.

                        Thanks for the offer though.

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        lolok
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: On the way to AC+793888
                        Posted by lolok on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 7:07 AM
                        Hi guys,
                        I am London guy working here in Warsaw,Poland for a while and I am kind of limited to my Werther basic comp'. Bog standard model with about 3.3 bar and moisture trap. I too was wondering if it is possible to add a pressure guage.Is it possible or do you need an air tank to feed off?
                        Any answers appreciated.
                        Jim.
                        Jim Ryan Ex-Pat Limey in warsaw.Poland. " MENE,MENE,TEKEL U PHARSIN"
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:15 AM
                        Jim, I would have thought if you had a connector with a bleed hole between the compressor and the regulator/gauge, you would be fine. That would at least allow excess preesure to bleed off without putting undue strain on the compressor.

                        But then what do I know?

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        lolok
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: On the way to AC+793888
                        Posted by lolok on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:33 AM
                        I've been using the moisture trap open/close valve as an ad-hoc pressure guage.Obviously not a good solution.
                        Jim Ryan Ex-Pat Limey in warsaw.Poland. " MENE,MENE,TEKEL U PHARSIN"
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:50 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by lolok

                        I've been using the moisture trap open/close valve as an ad-hoc pressure guage.Obviously not a good solution.



                        I've been doing something similar with the relief valve on my Werther 3, but have finally got so tired of the faffing around involved in trying to get it just right, that I've ordered my gauge, trap & regulator. I figure this way my results should be more consistent, and my langauge better!

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        lolok
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: On the way to AC+793888
                        Posted by lolok on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:54 AM
                        I read somewhere that it should be possible to add an airtank to our basic model comps'. I don't know if it is and what it would involve.Maybe somebody can enlighten us?
                        Jim Ryan Ex-Pat Limey in warsaw.Poland. " MENE,MENE,TEKEL U PHARSIN"
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:57 PM
                        Well you have an Email, let me know
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