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Help with respirator filters please!

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  • Member since
    August 2004
  • From: UK
Posted by four-star on Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:22 AM
Wow, thanks Gip! The detailed information and advice you have given has really helped to reassure me that the filter I was looking at was the right type.Big Smile [:D]

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    April 2003
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, December 17, 2004 2:15 PM
What would we do without you Gip?
You da man brother. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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    May 2003
  • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
Posted by styrene on Friday, December 17, 2004 1:55 PM
The 2128 cartridge you are referring to is a "combination" cartridge--that is it includes a particulate filter for dusts, mists, and fumes, and treated activated charcoal that not only removes organic vapors, but also removes acid gases. While it is (usually) a more expensive filter, it is more convenient to use than an organic vapor cartridge and its attendant prefilter(s). I don't think that $10 is too much to pay for what you're getting. In addition, the 2128 is designed to fit the older 6000, and newer 7500 series respirators. Depending on your painting habits, controls (room fans, open windows, etc), and how you treat your respirator after painting sessions are complete will determine how long the cartridges last. Based upon professional judgement and personal experience, I would expect your cartridges to last a LONG time before replacement is necessary. Of course, any time you smell contaminants through the respirator, or have difficulty breathing (given a good face-to-facepiece seal), you should consider changing the cartrigdges.

Merry Christmas!
Gip Winecoff

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  • From: UK
Posted by four-star on Friday, December 17, 2004 10:28 AM
Thanks. I know what you mean about the 3m website - it is definately a bit confusing!
  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: USA
Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:33 PM
Here in the states the most common place to find them are places that carry paints and panting accessories. Hardware stores in the painting sections, stores that carry auto body paints, etc. Mine is a 3M model 6200 and you might be able to find something on 3M's web site (be aware that it is one of the worst in the world when it comes to trying to find something). They have a store locator, but they sell so many different things it might point you to some place that sells nothing but their tape.

Someone else in the UK was looking for one recently, but I can't recall who. You might scan back through a few pages and see if you see something.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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    August 2004
  • From: UK
Posted by four-star on Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:50 PM
Hi, thanks for the advice. I can't get the links to work, as they keep timing out - sorry about that! It seems to be quite difficult to find decent respirators where I live in the UK - my local branch of one of the biggest DIY chains in the country doesn't even sell them!Sad [:(]
  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: USA
Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:43 PM
I couldn't get the links to work but from the descriptions they sound right. Keep the organic vapor cartridges in a Zip-Lock bag when not in use and they will last for a good while.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
  • Member since
    August 2004
  • From: UK
Help with respirator filters please!
Posted by four-star on Thursday, December 16, 2004 11:09 AM
Hi, I am considering buying the following respirator to use while airbrushing:

http://www.arco.co.uk/cgi-bin/arcobvp.dll/Arco/controller?event=product&BV_SessionID=@@@@2141985500.1103213767@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccccadddgelhhekcflgcefkdfggdfoo.0&productcode=111500&OID=18417

I am not sure about which filters I will need though. From reading other posts I know that I need to filter out both vapour and particulates. The only filter that seems to fit this specification and that is compatible seems to be the 3M "2128 P2 Particulate Filter" with the following product description

P2 Fine Particulates (plus organic vapours/ acid gas/ozone) 3M 2128
Protection against concentration of particulates of up to 10xOEL, with ozone protection up to 10xOEL and relief from organic vapour/acid gas below OEL for half and full face masks (APF) (see link below):

http://www.arco.co.uk/cgi-bin/arcobvp.dll/Arco/controller?event=product&BV_SessionID=@@@@2141985500.1103213767@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccccadddgelhhekcflgcefkdfggdfoo.0&productcode=112600&OID=18432

Am I looking at the right kind of filter? Also, these seem to be quite expensive at £5.16 ($10) for a pack of two - is this about average? It seems like it will be very expensive if I want to use a respirator over a long period of time.

Any advice on this respirator and the right kind of filters will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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