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How much paint will that airbrush put out?
Posted by MikeV on Monday, December 20, 2004 6:19 PM
I mentioned in a post in the Odds and Ends forum about wanting to paint my computer monitor black and that I needed the airbrush that put out the most paint for this job. Well, today the UPS man brought my new Crescendo and I tried it out along with my other siphon-feed models to see which one put out the most paint.
I did this test from 6" away from the surface at 40 psi with Aqua-Flow Silk Black textile paint and the results are below.
It seems the Crescendo with a med tip/needle did indeed put out the most paint, but the Badger 360 was not far behind.



I can't read the names under each line very well on the forum so they are as follows from top to bottom:
Badger Crescendo, Badger 155 Anthem, T&C Omni 3000, T&C Vega 2000, Badger 360.

I was just curious as to what kind of spray pattern you can get while doing larger paint jobs and this info might come in handy when you build that 1/48 AC-130 or B-1B. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2004 7:26 PM
Mike, if I was building something that large I would use a mini spraygun just for the fact that it is much easier to put down a nice coat of paint on a large surface. It is easier to keep the paint 'wet' when spraying with a mini airgun on a large surface. Just my .5 cents.
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, December 20, 2004 7:44 PM
hehe a 1/48 B-1B? I think I would go next door to my neighbor, the car mechanic, and put the model on a table and spray it with his auto spray gun... would be easier haha... also it is connected to a compressor with a 120 gal tank... I would need that much air to finish it...

Now a 1/24 B-36... now THATs a project!!! (my 2 yr old niece could probably pose in it as a pilot figure)
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, December 20, 2004 7:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

It seems the Crescendo with a med tip/needle did indeed put out the most paint, but the Badger 360 was not far behind.
Mike


were you using the cup or the siphon? I was about to reply that in my experience once I get to a certain pressure/distance from the model the spray quality dissipates at higher paint flow (with my 155) but then I remembered I mostly use the color cup for ease of cleanup... I have used the jar once or twice and I also just remembered it did seem to put out a fair amount of paint...

I see the results, but it just feels like that 175 does a lot more paint flow than the 155 does... when I pulled the trigger back all the way one day for kicks it sucked down that bottle fast!
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, December 20, 2004 7:51 PM
Tom,

I was using a 2 oz plastic bottle.

Mike

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Posted by MikeV on Monday, December 20, 2004 7:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jfrejo

Mike, if I was building something that large I would use a mini spraygun just for the fact that it is much easier to put down a nice coat of paint on a large surface.


I agree John.
I asked Ken about the Badger 400 and he thought that was too much gun for the job.

I think it would be cool for this purpose. Wink [;)]



Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2004 8:13 PM
We have a a Badger airgun like that as well as a couple of Bink guns they are pretty much the same airgun. where I work. We use them to paint our prototype models. We use them to paint some small stuff. They work well but use a lot of paint. I have my own mini gravity feed spray gun that I use and it uses less paint and gives a nice finish.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2004 9:01 PM
IT seems like I use the bottle more than the cup, since a few bad experiences with dripping paint
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2004 9:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

IT seems like I use the bottle more than the cup, since a few bad experiences with dripping paint


Is there no cap available for the cup??
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2004 9:06 PM
Mike V if you have a Menards close to you go there and pic up a Gravity Feed gun from Tool Shop.. it has a 1.4 tip at max and will spray out a 6 in rad, at 6 inch away from the part. Also this will hook up to all of your badger air lines with out having to inter change with any thing.
Pluse its cheep for $16 you can not go wrong.
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, December 20, 2004 9:13 PM
There are no Menards in CA. Smile [:)]

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2004 10:21 PM
model, no
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:05 PM
1333 if you are asking me whats the part number im not shure but its a little black one. Looks like a spray gun but with a airbrush tip on it.
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:30 PM
I think he was replying to the question about did the 155 cup not have a cap... no it doesn't... but I still prefer it as it cuts cleanup in half and for me it's easier to use for detail work.. the bottle seems awkward when you're that close in to the model and trying to get just this one little speck painted.. especially since I have 2 cups.. one gets used for cleaning the AB when I am done then I use the rag where I sprayed the thinner to wipe out the other cup...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:33 PM
tho is a psycotic... you know, the guy who reads minds and flips out and kills things.

but yeah, it's like a badger 400
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Posted by zokissima on Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:05 AM
I can't really remember of having seen any hobby airbrush that can really put out a wide pattern of paint. At least not with any great degree of coverage. See if you can get a hold of a mini spray-gun or something of the sort.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:47 PM
I dont use my 175 on my models, afraid it'll get washed on the table in a flood of paint ;). I use it in my Tee business and then it can still put out a flood. I was making a Tee that had a full shirt brick wall with graffittiiii on it and left it on the board over night. The paint seeped throught the 100% cotton Tee and stuck it to tht e board heh. Had to rip up the shirt to get it off, so I have made 2 Tees with full shirt brick walls on it heh.
I use the 360 for my modeling because you can get a lot of control on it, like the 4000G.
Jeff
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:00 PM
Jeff,

If you want to really see it put out some paint then do this old trick the guys used to do and still do with the Paasche VL and others:

Pull off the handle, loosen the needle chuck and pull the needle back about 1/4" and then use the trigger for air only as the paint will come out full blast. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:17 PM
Exactly the same thing will happen with the crensendo... loosen the spring chuck and all you have to do is push the trigger down Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 24, 2004 3:59 PM
mike, with the 155, why not just take the return thing, slide it into 1 of the notches, and just spray?
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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, December 24, 2004 7:27 PM
hmm notches? I didn't notice them on my 155... where at?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 24, 2004 7:37 PM
behind the trigger, at the end of the action, there are 2 "notches"
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