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    November 2005
wash cleanup vs clear finish
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:47 PM
I'm wondering if there's a simpler solution to cleaning up a wash (wiping off excess) without harming the gloss finish it goes on top of. i usually put down the base coat (acrylic), apply the decals, cover it all with microscale micro gloss then(after 24 hours) go ahead with the wash. the problem is that once i'm cleaning off the wash chances are i'll have to resort to thinner to get some of the stubborn spots out and it seems to take off the micro gloss. the wash is acrylic paint and thinner. (i tried acrylic paint water and soap sludge wash but messed it up)

what i'm looking for is being able to remove the access wash without worrying about the gloss coat underneath giving through. will future stand up to acrylic paint thinner? would a lacquer gloss finish and work with the acrylic paint underneath?

i realise the safest thing might be to just get the sludge wash figured out properly and only have to use water for cleanup but i don't like having to use water to carry the acrylic since it usually settles on the edges of the wet area. can a sludge wash be made with an enamel?

help a newbie out. any help will be appreciated Big Smile [:D]
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:56 PM
Why not use Future as your gloss coat and then put water-based acrylics on for your washes? I have used cotton swabs dampened with Windex and water to remove excess and it does not affect the Future at all.

Mike

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:59 PM
Enamels can be used for a wash, but you might want to consider using artist watercolors, the type that come in a tube. They come in all the needed colors, are purely water soluble, and are safe to use over Future or any other gloss top coat. The Feb issue of FSM has an article on using Tempra paint for washes which is worth reading. I've never tried Tempra, but think it would be similar to using the watercolors.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:40 AM
I have used artists watercolors ("tempera") for doing washes and it works really well. Basically you only need a small tube each of black, white and dark brown. They can be thinned with plenty of tap water, mixed to the desired color and you have a wash sludge prepared. Since washes must be very thin and temperas are very thick, even a very small tube will last a looong time. Even so, they are very cheap.
After wiping the excess wash, spray on an additional clear coat (acrylic or enamel, depends on underlying color and clear coats). But even that is only necessary if previous clearcoats were gloss and you want a flat finish (or vice versa).
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 30, 2004 8:45 PM
Has anybody tried pelikan's drawing ink?
thined with water and maybe soap? just before I try it myself :-P
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