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Posted by four-star on Thursday, February 3, 2005 6:30 AM
Thanks for everyone's help and advice, hopefully I will get better results using future next time, now that I know a bit more about it!
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:33 AM
I have heard the same thing as Scott said.
Ammonia can affect the chrome on an airbrush but I have not seen it myself.

Mike

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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 6:52 AM
Ammonia can cause the finish on some airbrushes to darken. Flush it with water after using the ammonia and that chould prevent it from happening.
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Posted by tho9900 on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 6:43 AM
hmmm might want to ask Mike V... I dont see why diluted ammonia would as Windex doesnt and it has ammonia... just flush it with water... but again might want to ask Mike V first...
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Posted by four-star on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 5:35 AM
I was initially trying to avoid household ammonia due to the smell issue, but it seems like I don't have much choice! Is it safe to use this mixture of water and ammonia to clean future out of an airbrush aswell? I have heard that ammonia can damage the finish on airbrushes
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Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 7:12 AM
ammonia has a bad smell to it so be prepared! diluted it will be annoying at most but make sure you do it in a ventilated area... and after thinking about it maybe start with like a 8:1 ratio of water to ammonia... better to start out too weak than too strong... (for your nose's sake)
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by four-star on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 4:10 AM
Everywhere on the internet seems to say that Windolene does contain ammonia, but I contacted the manufacturers, and they say that it doesn't. I guess I'll have to get some household ammonia instead.
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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:22 PM
hmmm does your windowlene hava ammonia in it? if not some common diluted household ammonia will do the trick... start out like 3:1 water to ammonia and just touch a small part and see if it is strong enough... I would imagine so.

The ammonia is what takes it off... sometimes I have to go over a spot 2 or 3 times to get it all off...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by four-star on Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:32 PM
OK, thanks for the advice. How do you remove future once it has cured? I tried windex (or windolene), and it didn't have any effect on it
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Posted by tho9900 on Friday, January 28, 2005 6:52 AM
if I coat it over a flat paint it usually comes out satin, so I either usually end up either adding a second coat overall for weathering, or just where the decals will go if I am not doing any big weathering on it...

as far as looking uneven... when you paint it on use a wide flat tipped brush, use a slow even stroke and (what I have done) cover the entire length of the part you are painting if possible.. this eliminated the starting and stopping heavy spots...

you could also try putting a bit of water or alcohol into it to thin it a bit, this would definitely require a second coat I am sure to get it glossy...

Also you might be putting it on a bit heavy and getting buildup along the lowest point of the part you are painting...
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another future question
Posted by four-star on Friday, January 28, 2005 4:57 AM
Hi, sorry about another future question, but I have read all I can find on this and still have a problem. I gave a surface painted with flat paint a coat of future with a paint brush, and instead of giving a gloss finish, it gave a satin finish. I have already read the 'The Complete Future' article by Swanny, and this seems to suggest that one coat will result in a gloss finish. Also there is a lot of talk about future having great self levelling properties, but on my model, it has not levelled at all well and has dried in uneven regions. Is it normal to require more than one coat? Does anyone know what I might have done wrong? Thanks
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