Help! Badger 155 -vs- Iwata Revolution

I nave no experience with the Bager 155, but I've had an Iwata Revolution for several months & like it a lot.

Regards, Rick

Well I personally have had no problems with my 155. (knock on wood) It is a TERRIFIC brush, and you can't go wrong with it.

It sounds to me like the problems people are having with their 155 come from lack of cleaning and understanding of airbrush matenance and not the airbrush iitself. They would most likely have these problems with any airbrush. But either way which ever airbrush you choose you cant loose as both are great airbrushes that will last a long time and are hassle free with proper cleaning. One thing to consider is that the parts if you ever need to replace them are cheaper for the Badger.
John

Go with the Iwata product. With proper care and maintenance, spare parts will not be an issue.

Mike M

I can't speak about the Iwata, but I would'nt want to be without my 155. Never had any trouble with it and cleaning is a breeze.

Dean

Hey!

I have an Iwata Eclipse, and I am very happey about it, no trouble at all what so ever. If somthing is wrong then it's only my handycap.
A friend of mine own the Revolution CR. He can't belive he's luck to own such a marvellouse jewl!

I dont know about the badger. Iwata just feels wright!

my 155 had a problem cause of improper maintanence. i prefer the 155 to most airbrushes, but if you're looking for a good gravity feed, maybe look at the badger 100lg.

I echo the feeling jfrejo expressed... they are both great brushes... I own the 155 and have never had a problem with it that wasn't my fault (only prob I had was I bent my needle after 2 months of having it... no biggie 5 dollars at Michaels and it was fine!) I don't own the Iwata but am interested in one... and from everything I have heard from people I trust I believe it is.

Maybe you want to check around and see which one has better parts availability in your area... it would make for a long weekend if you buy the one without parts in your area and you have to wait till next week for a needle or such to come in...

You could just flip a coin and be happy with whichever you get. I don't have a 155, but I do have a 100LG, and I also have a Revolution CR. I like and use them both. I get a finer line with my 100 on the fine tip than I do with the CR, but the CR is still good enough for just about anything you'd need to do modeling. I'm using the 100 as an illustration airbrush mostly. They both feel great and are both well made, so either option you pick, you come out a winner.

i'm just a tad bit biased toward iwata myself!!!

I've had my Badger 360 (same as 155 except that the front rotates for gravity feed) for 2 years now with no probs at all.. and my badger 175 has been trouble free for 3 years.. not even a prob with needles....... main thing is to keep em clean...

QUOTE: Originally posted by goldenretriver Go with the Iwata product. With proper care and maintenance, spare parts will not be an issue.

With proper care and maintenance spare parts are not an issue with a Badger either, but when you do need parts you don't have to get a loan from the bank.

As has already been said, they are both nice instruments and you must choose which one you prefer. Do you want an American made product that feeds American worker's families or do you want something made by the country that bombed Pearl Harbor while we slept?
How you like them apples Saltydog?

Mike

As to who bombed who...didn't we nuke two cities in Japan...cities of non-military value? I fully understand that our actions prevented an all-out invasion of mainland Japan. But to refer to "...the country that bombed Pearl Harbor while we slept ", I'm not going there.

I could logically refuse to buy anything made in the "north" U.S. because my ancestry goes back to Appalachian Tennessee. But, I'm a born and raised "yankee" and I could refuse to buy anything made in the "south" U.S.

Anyone own anything made in Germany? Germany...you know, the country that killed 6 million Jews about 60 some years ago. They had this really mean guy named Adolf...

Before this gets way off topic, I am not so concerned about where a product originates. I happen to be a loyal driver of Honda Accords, because in my opinion, they are the best cars made in the world (along with Toyota). I've had GM and Ford vehicles that you couldn't pay me enough to drive again.

Ahhh...maybe I'll try to get both airbrushes.

Or go back to my original choice...the Paasche VL. (France?......)(No way!)

I'm getting nowhere in making this decision.

MikeV, I greatly respect your opinions on airbrushes. But "made in Japan" is not a curse to me, quite the opposite. I will try to avoid Chinese manufacture.

That was a joke MA. That is why I put the laughing smiley after the post.
I own an Accord also but it was made in Ohio so Americans assembled it.

Mike

again --- a neutral opinion (in a sense..) they are both good airbrushes... I own a 155 and love it and recommend it.. but you wouldnt go wrong with an Iwata Revolution either... I am looking into purchasing an Iwata soon as well as I feel from some modelers here opinion and their work it is a good brush...

the problems with 155's I have seen crop up in the last week or so are either cleaning issues or somehow a part got damaged reassembling it... go with you gut feeling...

the 360 might be a good choice too.. (not to further confuse the issue) haha

---edit---

my Nissan Xterra was made in Kentucky... and it blows away the Ford Ranger I used to own (made in Japan by Mazda)

QUOTE: Originally posted by MA Cooke Or go back to my original choice...the Paasche VL. (France?......)(No way!)

Paasche is also American made.

Mike

MikeV, my apologies...I oversaw the laughing dude.

I'm leaning towards badger because of replacement parts availability and price.

Yes, Honda builds all Accords here in Ohio, up north in Marysville and Bellfontaine. Back in the early 90's, I read an article in one of the car mags that the "most American made car" (raw mat'l + parts + labor) was the Accord. I love them, I'm on my fourth one, and it's got over 150,000 miles and going strong.

Thanks for all your input, opinions, musings, etc. etc.

Mitch

No problem Mitch.

I have also heard that the only "American-made motorcycle" is the Honda Gold Wing.
Kind of ironic considering the Harley-Davidson diehards that won't buy a Japanese bike.

Have a great day my friend

Mike

Yeah..."Get that rice burner away from muh Harley."

They're just jealous. They probably don't want to be liable in case their Harley blows up and damages a fine Honda or Kawasaki.

My dream car?? Accura NSX, bright yellow. Second choice: F-14. Off the catapult, nothing else comes close.

You too, Mike.

Ma cooke, I had a Badger many moons ago but currently I have a Eclipse and a Revolution. They are easy to clean 3 to 5 min. and they just fit my hand great. ( I have small hands). Balance is important to me because I feel I have better control, there for I have a better looking product in the end. IMHO

Thad

i'd rather have a mosler mt 900 than any nsx. especially in yellow.

I wouldn't be suprised if the newest and greatest "american" stuff was made overseas.

Mosler MT 900 ? What's that?

The NSX is a pure sports car, but one that you can drive every day, you can take a jaunt down to the store for a gallon of milk. I understand that some of the more exotic European sports cars (Ferrari, Lotus, Porsche) are not as "every day drivable" as an NSX.

you need to get saved Mikey, and learn about forgiveness!! i've never considered where a product is made, i just compare the quality, and research opinions from others who've used the tool, then make a decision based on my observations. works 80% of the time, except when i purchased a couple of badger airbrushes once!! later.

If you want a good AB then get a Badger.

If you want a great AB with an egonomic feel and balance, more weight to it to help steady your hand while painting, precision quality design, tolerances and build, that is reliable and an AB that you will not have to worry about seeking parts then an Iwata will be the best choice. Quality costs more and the Iwata is quality.

Why would you want to use a cheaper feeling AB for your one of a kind model?

I just purchased the Iwata HP CR and I absolutely love it! I actually purchased it at Coast Airbrush which many people have mentioned here. very tempted to buy the Iwata Eclipse CS as well.

I used to use a Paasche Millenium, but the Iwata has rendered my Millenium obsolete as far as I am concerned. The difference is like night and day. Now if only my modelling skills could match the quality of the Iwata....

I have no experience with Badger, but I'm sure you would be happy with it as well, judging from all the comments in this forum. Plus they are easier on the wallet!

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BADGER 155 ! I just bought on e-Bay, should have in about a week.

Cool, keep us posted as to how you like it and what you're doing with it!

Now I've got to start "buttering up" the missus to let me get a silent air compressor, then an Iwata Revolution.

And the new Tamiya F-16CJ, and......

I know how that goes. I'm having to get a new compressor this week, it took a good long while of buttering up. That and I had to agree to let her spend about the same amount of our tax money on shoes and clothes. It's worth it though.