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Airbrushes?
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 5, 2003 6:30 PM
Hi guys!!!!

I just want to know wich airbrush is better betwen an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and a Badger Crescendo B1757?. What are the differences and wich one I should buy?
I will apreciate your help!!!!
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, June 5, 2003 8:38 PM
Baduy,

It all depends on what you like in an airbrush.

The Iwata Eclipse is a slim designed airbrush whereas the Crescendo has a thicker body. Out of those two I would personally buy the Iwata but that is because I do not like the thick-bodied airbrushes like the Crescendo and the Paasche VL. If I were you I would seriously look at others also such as the T&C Omni 3000, Vega 2000 and Badger Anthem.

I have an Omni 3000, a Vega 2000, and a Vega 1000 and like them all with the Omni being my new favorite. I would say narrow it down to the Iwata Eclipse, the Omni 3000 and the Badger Anthem and decide from there.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:31 AM
Mike

Thanks for the info you gave me, it was very helpfull even though Ithink I bought the wrong one, the one that I bought Its the Eclipse bottom feed BCS set bu Im thinking of returning it and buy the Omni 5000 gravity feed, What do you think, should I exchaged or not and which one its better???

One more question or two, can I use a Color Cup from Bager or Pashee with the Eclipse BCS or they are not recomended and they are not what can I use????

I will apreciate your help!!!

Thanks Again

Baduy
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:38 PM
Baduy,

There is nothing wrong with the Eclipse BCS bottom feed and I believe you can use Badger or Paasche metal cups or bottle assemblies in it also as the bottom feed airbrushes use a tapered tube that you just press-fit the metal cups into. You better check into that because I am not absolutely sure if they fit the Iwata. The Eclipse and the Omni 5000 are both great airbrushes so the choice is yours. I kind of like the gravity feed airbrushes for models because you can mix your paint and pour it right into the gravity feed cup and paint.
You can just put a few drops of paint in there also if you want whereas with a bottom feed you need more paint for the tube to pick up. Gravity feed airbrushes also spray at lower pressures if needed, but that isn't much of a factor in model painting.
One thing about a gravity feed airbrush is that you have to keep it pointed down if you do not have a cap on the color cup, otherwise paint will spill out when you tip it too far.
Also remember that a gravity-feed model like the Omni 5000 has a 1/3 oz color cup which is fairly large so it will take some getting used to seeing where it is pointed as the cup obstructs the view slightly but it is not that big of a deal.

One other thing to consider is that if you are not really careful with the airbrush you will need needles and tips more often and the price for the Iwata needles is almost twice as much as a Thayer & Chandler or Badger needle and the Iwata tips are almost three times as much.

I personally use the T&C Vega 1000 gravity feed for model painting although my Vega 2000 and Omni 3000 bottom-feed airbrushes will work fine too. Let me add that I use my Omni 3000 and Vega 2000 for T-shirt airbrushing mainly and the Vega 1000 is my modeling airbrush.

Here is some of my airbrush artwork is you are interested:
http://myartworkgallery.com/mag/slides.asp?member_id=14

Mike

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Posted by RonUSMC on Friday, June 13, 2003 3:07 PM
I have 2 Paasche, an Aztek 4709 and just bought a Sotar 20/20.

I wont buy another bottom feed.. just wastes too much paint.. always gravity feed for me from now on.
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, June 13, 2003 7:36 PM
Ron,

Have you tried the Sotar 20/20 yet? Will it spray model paints?

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 13, 2003 10:19 PM

Mike and Ron

Thank you for your help, tomorrow Im going to exchange my Eclipse for the Omni 5000.

Mike the Omni 5000 does not have 1/3 oz color cup bud instead it has a 1/8 oz color cup, I don't know if that is better hopefully it is.

Mike your artwork is out of this world, definitly fantastic!!!!!

Thank you

BaduyCool [8D]
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, June 13, 2003 10:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by baduy



Mike the Omni 5000 does not have 1/3 oz color cup bud instead it has a 1/8 oz color cup, I don't know if that is better hopefully it is.

Mike your artwork is out of this world, definitly fantastic!!!!!




My mistake Baduy, I was thinking of the Omni 4000 which has the 1/3 oz cup. The Omni 5000 is basically the same as my Vega 1000 which also has a 1/8 oz cup. It is plenty of paint for model painting, just be careful not to put too much in the cup and keep it pointed downward. Wink [;)]

Thanks for the comments on my artwork my friend. I appreciate the kind words. Let me know how you like that Omni 5000 when you get it.

Mike

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Posted by RonUSMC on Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:33 PM
The Sotar will spray model paints of course.

It is made for very fine details... it sprays a hairline to 20 mm.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 16, 2003 6:26 PM
hi Miike

It looks like I'm not going to like the Omni 5000 because the store where I bougth the Eclipse here in Toronto doesn't want to exchange it, so I'm going to either sale it on E-bay or who Knwos, anyways I will keep in contact.


Thanks for your help!!!

Baduy
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, June 16, 2003 8:17 PM
Baduy,

I have a friend who has a brand new Omni 5000 that he said he would trade you for that Eclipse if you want. They are both about the same price so it would be a fair trade.

Let me know and I'll give you his email address.


Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by RonUSMC on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:39 AM
The Eclipse is a killer airbrush... not sure why you would want to get rid of that one. The only thing I would change is the bottom feed.
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